Between terrorism, never-ending unrest in the Middle East, Iraq, and now Katrina, you’d think that finally — finally — politicians would take the strategic energy issue by the horns. You’d think that someone would be getting on TV with a man-on-the-moon-sized, project-Manhattan-prioritized initiative on oil: incentives to develop alternative sources and find new efficiencies. Start with that guy who built the 250 mpg Prius and take him to Detroit and Toyko and tell them all: If he can do it, you can do it.

But we’re not hearing a peep. Is it just because they are incapable of thinking strategically. Is it because they’re too embarrassed at how current events show their lack of leadership? Is it because they’re stupid or think we are?

I saw regular at $2.99 last night. All arguments that Americans don’t really care about energy will fade quickly and energy will become a political opportunity. Let’s see who jumps on and rides.

: And in the meantime, rebuilding Iraq’s oil infrastructure wouldn’t exactly hurt, giving us oil (isn’t that what we’re fighting for?) and giving them the money to build their nation and tell the terrorists to go suck an exhaust pipe.

  • I don’t want the government to figure anything out for us. Government is terrible at that. Example: look at the dangerous and way over-priced space shuttle and then look at Burt Rutan’s Spaceship One.

    Private industry should (and will) seize the market opportunity. Too much money to be made, and government would only interfere with that necessary process. Shoo, politicians.

  • Jeff, the guy with the 250 mpg Prius relies on electricity produced by oil and coal burning plants. Hardly a revolutionary technology. In fact, it’s possible that the production of the batteries to hold that energy, couple with the recharge needs, uses more oil overall than a combustion engine.

    The real opportunity here is to get everyone out of SUVs, small or large, which are a huge gas waste given the size/weight versus energy consumption. Get a car, or maybe a little station wagon. If you are driving any kind of SUV, no matter how small, you are part of the problem.

    I say, let gas prices skyrocket. The market will solve the problems. People will ditch their heavy vehicles, will end long commutes, will turn to public transportation. The market will respond when faraway McMansions become undesirable, and the demand for cars rises as the demand for other vehicles falls.

  • It’s because the kind of project you’re talking about would be a pointless waste of time and money.

    Sorry, but that’s the truth. Not all problems can be solved just by taking a team of engineers and throwing a pile of cash at them and saying, “OK, pass a miracle.”

  • geekgod

    Wise people say fihting a war should begin from home. If U.S is there to protect the poor Iraqis from the clutches of Baa’thist, what they are doing to protect it’s people from Katrina
    If it’s about civilizing the Arab barbarians, what you do with the people who looted New Orleans while a national disaster was happened
    checkout the article

  • The fact that Bush and his cronies are mired in the oil industry might explain the lack of direction.

    Incidentally you aren’t fighting terrorism in Iraq you are creating it. There were no ‘terrorists’ in Iraq until you ravaged the place.

  • Heh, always amuses me to hear Americans moaning about the cost of fuel, I’m sure I’m not the first Brit to point out how much higher our costs are……

    Currently paying about the equivilent of $6.50 per US gallon of fuel…

    I’ve love for there to be a proper push on alternative fuel sources. But when our petrol has 75% tax on it, the government aren’t exactly going to be in a hurry to lose that huge revenue.

  • This always gets my goat. Applying the economic laws of supply and demand to a situation like this only lines the pockets of the oil producers. Does raising the price actually reduce consumption? Not in any appreciable way. So what’s the point?

  • Gas is more expensive now because demand has gone up, not because supply has gone down. Demand has gone up because we won the Cold War, and India, China and the fomer Eastern Block countries are now walking onto the capitalist playing field and want the same rewards for playing our game that we’ve been saying for 100 years they deserve.

    When you add about 2 billion people to the the game, the prizes become much more expensive from a supply/demand perspective. One of the chief prizes in a post-industrial economy is energy. If we want it, now that there are more players, we have to pay more. We have to pay in money, in time, in ingenuity, in blood, in political will and in personal freedoms; all of our resources that *aren’t* energy. That’s the way economic balance works. You want one thing, you pay with others.

    We wanted this to happen, remember? We wanted the USSR and China to be capitalist democracies, and for places like India, who were, until recently, very pro-communist, to follow our lead. They have. And they are catching up to us. So we need to run faster. Problem is, we had (and have) no good plan for how to do so.

    Energy is just one part of the race, too. And as little attention as we’re paying to it, we’re paying no attention to other factors in the worldwide race, like how we’re faring against the rest of the world in science education. In fact, we’re going backwards, adding “intelligent design” to our public school curricula, lowering Pell Grants, cutting funding for public schools and government loans, etc. That’s a bad idea, just when the rest of the world has decided to really start competing with us at what has given us our real edge in the past — intellectual creativity.

    We’re paying less (adjusted in real dollars) for gas than we did in the 1970’s for gas. We’ll be paying way more for our short-sightedness across the board in other areas when it comes to our new competitors in the world market for ideas.

  • Charlie (Colorado)


    (1) the “250 MPG Prius” is a scam.
    (2) Iraq is actually producing as much oil as it was before the war.
    (3) The big issue isn’t oil supply, it’s that we’re desperately short of refinery capacity.

    But, other than having none of the facts right, it’s an interesting comment.

  • The number of next-generation nuclear power plant construction projects begun since 9/11/2001?

    None. Zip. Nada. Zero.

  • Mumblix Grumph

    I could have bet that we’d see the usual suspects in the comment section:
    1. Stop driving SUV’s!
    2. Bush is an oil man!
    3. Gas costs more in (INSERT COUNTRY HERE).

    Thanks for playing.

  • Den Beste is exactly right.

    And as for the 250mpg Prius, it was charged off of the grid which in America would mean you’re looking at coal, gas or hydro for the most part. Two of those things come out of the ground, and the hippies get pissed about the dams for the third. Until we start building nuke plants, that Prius is a parlor trick.

    Terry Heaton obviously doesn’t know what the term “inelastic demand curve” means. Furthermore, oil prices aren’t that high in real terms. They’d have to hit ~$90 to have the same real price as they did in 1979, and gas expenditure only takes up 3% on average of household expenditure, not the 5% it did during the oil crisis. Overall, Jeff, this and the “Don’t rebuild New Orleans” thing are pretty far off the mark.

  • whodat

    Gas may be much more expensive in Britain, but thin of all the savings you guys make by refraining from dental care.

    I went there. Sorry.

  • Brett, private industry won’t do crap until there are some government incentives attached to it. Jenny, the Prius as designed charges itself (as as Dan said). Jeremy, that’s why the administration doesn’t want us to move away from oil, they just want us to move away from foreign oil. Adrian Lee, and this morning, I heard on NPR that the Republican answer was to cut gas taxes, which by-the-way, fund the pork-laden Highway Bill (Yay for Deficits!!). Andy, thanks for the economics lesson, but it affects American pockets the same regardless of how you term it. And please stop the “paying-less than in the 1970s meme”. Wages, health-care benefits and the like have to be factored in. That’s semantic BS – for most people, we like our economics and budgets over the kitchen table, not in the lecture hall. Charlie, read up on why oil companies moved their refining capacity in the 1970s and 1980s. Don McCarthur, strawman defined – 3-Mile Island and Chernobyl are pretty fresh in everyone’s minds, and since we blue staters tend to be densely packed, we worry about that kind of thing. Since the admin just wants to let them extend their licenses and use 1950s tech. Tell me, what companies would like to build new plants but can’t?

  • And as for the 250mpg Prius, it was charged off of the grid which in America would mean you’re looking at coal, gas or hydro for the most part. Two of those things come out of the ground, and the hippies get pissed about the dams for the third. Until we start building nuke plants, that Prius is a parlor trick.

    A parlor trick? I don’t think so. We have enough coal to get us through the next thousand years, and modern coal-burning plants are much cleaner and more efficient than the sooty chimneys of yesterday. The limiting factor for the grid is the fact that “private” power companies have no incentive to upgrade or increase capacity. Either return these utilities to the public trust or introduce true competition into the energy markets (instead of these cable t.v.-like local monopolies) and you’ll have more than enough electricity to charge your cars without resorting to nukes.

  • I asked people at a forum I frequent what percentage of their income they pay for gasoline. I’ve gotten a total of two responses so far, so this is rather lacking in data points. That said, both responses were around 2% of income.

    If we are indeed paying just 2% or so of our income on gasoline this has many implications. One, gasoline is still cheap. Bloody cheap. Even at $5.00 a gallon gasoline would be no more than about 4% of our income. We’re not likely to see new refinery construction until gasoline takes up something like 10% of our income.

    In the same thread posters from Europe are talking about paying the equivalent of 6 to 8 US dollars on a gallon of gasoline. They also report an increase in the sale of SUVs in their home country.

    I’ll be blunt, we’re spoiled. Until gasoline costs us a substantial proportion of our income we’re not going to see any substantial improvement in the situation.

    Prognosis: We will see no substantial change in life until gasoline is going for $40.00 a gallon in 2005 dollars.

  • EverKarl

    The article accompanying the altest WaPo-ABC NEWS poll shows that gas prices are already a major factor driving Bush’s negatives.

    On the oil front, I note there’s been a major find in Alberta, Canada — estimated to be enough for North America for 50 years.

    As for the 250 mpg Prius, Jersey Exile is correct that coal is cleaner than it used to be, but iirc, puts out more greenhouse gases than oil. So I would think that — as with nuclear power — the green community will obstruct any such effort.

    And Charlie is right about Iraq’s oil output — you can check Brookings’ Iraq Index. There was also an article on the Forbes’ magazine site noting it.

  • Alan, the regular Prius charges itself. The 250 mpg Prius also relies on electricity from a wall outlet. Below is from a CNN story on the 250mpg Prius:

    “Like all hybrids, his Prius increases fuel efficiency by harnessing small amounts of electricity generated during braking and coasting. The extra batteries let him store extra power by plugging the car into a wall outlet at his home in this San Francisco suburb — all for about a quarter.”

  • paladin

    It’s fascinating to hear all the lefties blame Bush for what happened in NO as well as our current gasoline price. Those of us over the age of 10 remember the first real oil crises during the Carter Administration. Carter’s policies were a disaster and will never be repeated. In the interim we have had every combination of Republican/Democrat POTUS and Congress, yet not one of these in 30 years has seen fit to actually address our energy dependence problem.Those who believe more “free” tax money and more bureaucracy will solve this problem are either very young or very delusional.

  • The most accurate description of what our leaders have said is simply that – not a peep. I’m a Republican primarily, however, NOBODY is stepping up and at least explaining, or attempting to spin, what’s going on and WHY we should ‘buy into it.’

    Forget war, forget terror – is this simply to raise the burden and then lower it for ‘perceived relief’ and political gain? Seriously, where in the world are we heading? Even as a Republican, right now, I’m just looking for some minor wins in some area!!

  • I didn’t vote for Bush/Cheney, but when they were elected I did ask myself how can I profit? Hmmm, Bush, Cheney, profit…. Then it came to me: Buy energies and defense. I did and, well, the rest is history.

    The second time around, same thing: I voted for Kerry, but invest for Bush. I can’t say that I was depressed when Bush won — it meant another four years of great returns. And, he hasn’t disappointed me either.

    He even decreased my taxes to boot! Now he’s going to extend the courtesy of letting me pass my wealth in tact to my children by eliminating the estate tax. Nice touch W, thanks.

    Goldman Sachs is calling for $105 crude oil prices – which probably translated to $5.00+ retail gasoline prices! I say, bring it on.

  • Angelos

    No one is blaming Bush for the events in NO, but:
    1) I can wonder where the hell the National Guard is, and why.
    2) I can wonder WHERE THE HELL Chimpy has been the last 2 days. Was he reading My Pet Goat again? Oh wait, he had to squeeze another couple of campaign speeches in, a little ofr Iraqifying, a little more Medicare destroying.
    3) I can wonder why the commander of the US Northern Command had to say “If and when the president decides to step it up and use active duty forces, we will be, and it would be at almost certainly the request of the governor of Louisiana or Missippi… we would be able to respond with any number of options.” IF AND WHEN???????
    4) Seriously, it took 63 hours from the BEGINNING of the storms to get from Crawford back to DC? And that doesn’t include how many fucking days of warning he had? Did he really need to give another stump speech at a country club?

    This is the “leader” all you wingers were talking about? Leading you straight into the abyss.

    He just doesn’t care. He has no morals, no humanity, no sense of responsibility, and no clue.

    You’ve figured that out by now, haven’t you?

  • Jay Stein

    I never cease to be amazed at how the American Automobile is always held up as one of the great villain of all time. Folks, compared to 1967-69, perhaps the peak of the glory years of the “muscle cars,” which “gulped” gasoline, and “high 99 octane” Supershell at that, even the big SUV’s of today get phenomenal gas milage. There were cars and trucks back then that didn’t even get 10 mpg. Well, I got news for many of you in cyberland, The United States uses almost NO MIDDLE EASTERN OIL FOR REFINING GASOLINE. It is too poor of a grade of oil and would be too expensive. (A chief reason why Europe and Japan pay so much for gasoline.) America uses almost exclusively oil from either domestic sources or from other Western Hemisphere sources, in particular our “friends” in Venezuela which is a much higher grade of oil – “TEXAS SWEET.” [All oil in the world is graded against the oil of the “Texas Permian Basin”.]

    Can any of you spell “Polyester” or “Plastic?” Look around you. In the 1950’s most people wore clothes made from COTTON. Almost all of our bottles, whether they be Milk bottles, Soda bottles, Ketchup bottles, pickle bottles, Clorox bottles, whatever, they were made of GLASS. There were NO plastic gears in machinery; my ‘55 pickup truck has almost no plastic – even the instrument panel cover is glass and you’ll not find any plastic under the hood; Typewriters (That’s a tool that allowed “cavemen” to type letters before the age of computers.)(Even early PC’s often had metal cases); TV cabinets (including those inside wood consoles) were metal; gasoline cans, electric fans, wiring boxes, etc., etc.,etc., were all made of metal. Not so TODAY! “TV Dinners” came in aluminum trays. (The microwave wasn’t found in “every” kitchen, or for that matter, very few. It was a luxury item.) The only plastic dishes and cups were ones for picnics and even then much of the picnic dishware was metal. Fast food of the day came in paper bags not Styrofoam containers. When we put items in the freezer we would wrapped them in freezer or butcher’s paper, not in Ziplock Freezer bags. We used aluminum foil to cover plates and bowls of leftovers before placing them in the refrigerator; although “Tupperware” was becoming a big thing in the 60’s. As kids we took our lunch to school in metal lunch boxes with scenes of our favorite TV shows and our Dad’s, and perhaps a few Moms too, took their lunch in either brown bags or in black or silver metal lunch boxes. Tool boxes were always metal as were fishing tackle boxes. The advertising signs of the day were either metal (mostly Tin), wood, or paper on wood with lights shining on them at night if they were lighted, or they were neon lights. On the ranch we had metal feed buckles, metal or concrete watering troughs, metal wheelbarrows, etc., today, it’s a different story. Garbage cans were made entirely of metal including the lids. The list is endless of how the world has changed. All around us today we are surrounded by a world of plastic. That’s why we import so much oil. Not because of automobiles, many which get 3 and 4 times as much mpg as they did in the 1960’s, although I can remember one family car in the 50’s which got well over 20 mpg – the Old Nash Ambassador, but that was unusual for such a big car, but it was unusual and had many features ahead of its time and a big Ford we got in ‘68 with a 302 ci V-8 (small in that day of Ford’s with 427’s, 428’s and later 429’s and even 460’s) got what was then a respectable 18 mpg on the highway at 70 mph. It’s plastic and polyester, people! Even at that though, the American people aren’t even the consumers of all the oil we import. We’re the worlds larger manufacturer of plastic pellets which are then exported to the entire world and we are still a major manufacturer of many products, most of which contained…yeah – PLAISTIC.

    50 MPG automobiles are nice, but give me a 1977 pickup truck at the latest if I’m going to use it as a WORK TRUCK. The new pickups are cars in truck clothing to paraphrase the old saying. They may be fine for driving to the supermarket or to the concert, but as work trucks, they… stink! They don’t have the weight anymore that is so vital when hauling or moving heavy loads, or towing heavy loads either. Technically, they can do it, but go around a corner in a Ford F250 from 1977 or 1955 and then go around a corner in a 2005 F250 or even a F350, and you’ll quickly notice the difference, especially if you have any speed at all. You and your passenger will instinctively grab hold as you’ll feel the truck leaning and/or sliding as he rounds the turn, whereas the heavy older truck will take the curve almost as well as it takes the straight highway. The same reason a 12 HP John Deere lawn tractor will out perform a 28 HP Murray or Craftsman – weight!

  • Linda Edwards

    Paladin, the first oil crisis happened in 1972. Under Nixon. A Republican.

  • Mike

    Gee do you think that no one is stepping up and saying anything now could be that they haven’t even started pulling the dead bodies out of the water!!

    Give me a break Jeff! Were you calling for politicians to come out against terrorism and come up with a plan the day after 9/11?

    This is not the time nor the place to ask these questions from your high and safe perch.

    And will you stop with the 250 MPG Prius. It’s an electric car, it’s not a hybrid.

    And Angelos, I have read your posts here for quite some time and today you really just went over the top and showed yourself to be the *sshole you really are. Can’t you at least wait until the dead are accounted for before you start lambasting Bush. You’re such a f*cktard!

  • goy

    I’m with den Beste here on the short term. But one thing is clear. Someone had better begin taking the lead on these issues and at least HELPING the market to “solve the problem”.

    Bacteria are smarter. Stress ’em and they react! But we humans seem to just keep adapting to increasingly unsafe levels of dependency on oil.

  • billg

    I herewith donate all rights to the following two taglines to the 2008 Democratic Presidential nominee:

    “Four dollar Bush” and “Four Dollar Republicans”

  • Andy Freeman

    GM people know how to build a 250MPG car. The hard part is building one that people will buy at a profit to GM/Toyota, and the 250MPG Prius doesn’t address that problem at all.

    Right now, hybrids don’t make economic sense to buyers. (Don’t believe me – see how many miles you have to go burning $5/g gas before you recover the Prius premium over a 30MPG econobox.) That’s not fatal – lots of people will spend money on things that don’t make economc sense. However, lots more won’t.

  • Joe Stein:

    thanks for the really excellent analysis. I was noticing myself that ‘petroleum products’ probably are a larger part of our lives than straight-out fuel. don’t forget your formerly comfortable wool sweater is now a plastic wrap of sorts.

    And not far from Dallas I paid $3.++ for regular gas tonight.

  • Angelos

    Right Mike.

    FEMA has been gutted to the point that it’s a joke.

    Our National Guard is in Iraq.

    The people they do have helping are relying on CIVILIAN communications. Which don’t work.

    It took our “leader” 2.5 days to respond to this catastrophe.

    But I’m the fucktard here.

    You can play the “respect for the dead” card to change the subject today, but the questions won’t go away.

    Maybe some of can compartmentalize, and actually hold more than one thought in our head at the same time. So while I was worried about my Aunt and Uncle in Baton Rouge, I could also wonder to myself, gee, we haven’t heard from our President yet. Look I could give a shit what he says. All he had to to was get up there and look sincere, and state his plan of action, and offer the nation reassurance. You know, like Reagan and Clinton would have done marvelously.

    But Preznit Shitforbrains had to give an Iraq rally. And he had to give another “reform” Medicare speech. Oh, and he had to do a smiling photo-op strumming the official presidential guitar. (WTF?!?! by the way…)

    South Carolina, North Carolina, and West Virginia are running out of gas. Even the police are predicting they’ll have no fuel for their troopers come Friday. Where fuel does exist, there is gouging.

    New Orleans cops have been instructed to focus on looters instead of search-n-rescue.

    We knew about this storm for days, and your president did NOTHING!!! No Navy ships at the ready with food and emergency supplies and generators. These people were abandoned.

    But sorry Mike, I guess we should all keep our mouths shut, and respect the troops. I mean the dead.

    Or, we can read this post and wonder how the hell we let it get this far. Across the board failure, and you think you can shut me up with that tired old “respect the (insert cause of the day here)” bullshit? Maybe you should do some actual thinking, and direct some energy to the real assholes, the ones in DC.

  • If Uganda or Liberia had oil, don’t you think we would have sent troops there? Of course we would have. But we’re not just fighting for oil. All the shit we blow up, has to be rebuilt…but not by the Afghans or the Iraqi’s. This is a competitive marketplace! So thats why we let the Chinese build Afghan roads.

    Because its cheaper. Makes sense right?! That’s the way most right wingers think. Sad…

  • Angelos, snap out of it. You’re in some weird death spiral of politics. Here are a couple of suggestions:

    Whip out your credit card and give money to the Red Cross.

    Drive down to Houston/Baton Rouge/Jackson/Montgomery and feed some homeless people. Bring canned goods.

    If you took all the energy you spent bitching about politics and tried to help living, needy people…hell, you’d be Mother Theresa.

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  • I don’t see anybody here saying conservation is a bad thing. Even if you’re not motivated by ecological concerns, it still saves money. I have been spending time researching ways to make my house more energy efficient. My next project is to wrap the two water heaters in my house (it’s a two-family). Bit by bit, my house is going to become more energy efficient than my neighbors’. And if they want advice or help I’m happy to give that, too.

  • syn


    Peace. Please.

  • When gasoline takes up 20% or more of our budget instead of the 2 or 3% it currently does is when we’ll get serious about oil.

  • Angelos

    Some stuff from around the web:

    If Bush understood how serious this was, a brigade of the 101st would be have moved to Ft. Polk over the weekend and their helicopters would have been rescuing people as soon as the weathered cleared. Their heavy lift battalion would have been ferrying in supplies to isolated communities and the AF would have been dropping humanitarian aid packages like they did in Afghanistan over isolated rural areas. But that would be a serious understanding of the situation. Like taking over a couple of military bases recently closed and starting to build housing there and establishing order. The Astrodome will turn into the Superdome within days. The response here has not met the need in any way, shape or form. Just three C-130’s could have tossed out enough food and water to keep people alive until the trucks arrived in the rural areas. Instead, this is disaster business as usual and that is condemning people to die.

    Late Wednesday, Tenet Healthcare Corp. asked Louisiana State Police and the U.S. Coast Guard to help evacuate one of its hospitals in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water, medical supplies and pharmaceuticals was held up by gunmen. We have to close it down because we can no longer ensure the safety of our patients or our staff in that hospital,” Tenet spokesman Steven Campanini said of the 203-bed Meadowcrest Hospital.”

    “This is mass chaos,” said Sgt. Jason Defess, 27, a National Guard military policeman who had been stationed on a ramp outside the Superdome since Monday. “To tell you the truth, I’d rather be in Iraq,” where he was deployed for 14 months until January. “You got your constant danger, but I had something to protect myself,” he said. “Three meals a day. Communications. A plan. Here, they had no plan.”

    Airlines and oil companies are working on plans to supply jet fuel to at least ten U.S. airports that could be shut down due to a lack of jet fuel caused by refinery and pipeline shutdowns from hurricane Katrina. The airports in most jeopardy for closure include Atlanta, Charlotte, Ft. Lauderdale, Ft. Myers, Orlando, Tampa, Washington Dulles and West Palm Beach.

    CNN’s Chris Lawrence reporting on Aaron Brown, reports of people streaming out of the Superdome, entire families just trying to walk out of the city in fear. Reports of a dead body in the Superdome, several women raped. There is no visible police presence on the ground. He reported a police officer saying “we don’t need police here, this needs to be a military action right now”, the officer said that the situation was more than the police could take on. We’re in day 3 Mr. President, and it’s getting worse. And you go on television today and say you’re about to BEGIN WORK?

  • Angelos

    And Jenny, I have donated to the Red Cross. And once my relatives are up and running, I will send them a check to bring cans to shelters.

    And I have a job, so no thank you, I’ll be staying right here.

    Let’s not forget the hours and checks I give to local charities.

    This isn’t politics, Jenny, this is the here and now. Here and now, we have a Republican administration that has proven itself incompetent at every level, at everything it does. And by not doing things it should.

    Imagine, the consensus is that FEMA was at its all time best under James Witt, who rebuilt it after its gutting by Bush the elder. So for 8 years, we had an agency that knew what it was doing, and was run by competent people. As soon as Bush junior took over, it was gutted again. Its “management” jobs were given out as patronage. Don’t you feel better now? Billy Joe Jim Bob is in charge of emergency response on Alabama, because he knows someone who knows someone who knows the assistant to the assistant to the undersecretary of Yes Men. Quite an upgrade from his job pumping gas at the local Shell.

    I feel safer every day, don’t you?

  • Guys like Jeff shouldn’t be whining about the price of gas. Leftists like him voted for politicians that have systemically blocked every energy development program: refineries, ANWAR, nuclear, etc.

    Lefties should be apologizing.

  • Angelos

    And we have a winner!

    The head of FEMA, do you want to know his qualifications?

    “He was an estate planning lawyer in Colorado and of counsel for the International Arabian Horse Association Legal Department.”


    Which could be why, even though FEMA was wrapped into Homeland Security, there were no plans for refugee shelters. No food. No airlifts. No hospitals. No nothing.

    Another fucking lawyer in another fucking patronage job IS IN CHARGE OF THE SAFETY OF 290 million AMERICANS!!! In a government that puts ideology and money ahead of human lives, this is what we have come to.

    You had better be ready for the shitstorm the next time there is a terrorist attack on our land, because we’re soooooo not ready.

    Remember, there is no SuperDoppler for planes flying into buildings. There will be no 5 days notice.


  • Angelos

    Some more on the damage to the oil refineries, platforms, etc.

    91% of the production is shut down. For how long?

    This should start another good 30 years of talk about lessening our reliance on foreign oil!

  • Mike

    From Under Secretary Brown’s Bio:

    Under Secretary Brown has led Homeland Security’s response to more than 164 presidentially declared disasters and emergencies, including the 2003 Columbia Shuttle disaster and the California wildfires in 2003. In 2004, Mr. Brown led FEMA’s thousands of dedicated disaster workers during the most active hurricane season in over 100 years, as FEMA delivered aid more quickly and more efficiently than ever before.

    Previously, Mr. Brown served as FEMA’s Deputy Director and the agency’s General Counsel. Shortly after the September 11th terrorist attacks, Mr. Brown served on the President’s Consequence Management Principal’s Committee, which acted as the White House’s policy coordination group for the federal domestic response to the attacks. Later, the President asked him to head the Consequence Management Working Group to identify and resolve key issues regarding the federal response plan. In August 2002, President Bush appointed him to the Transition Planning Office for the new Department of Homeland Security, serving as the transition leader for the EP&R Division.

    Sounds like he has some experience, doesn’t it.

    Angelos, can you for once try to not be political. Do you have the mental capacity to set that aside for a week maybe? Your posts are so vitriolic, calm down man, there will be plenty of time to spew your hatred later.

  • SuperWoody

    LMAO at Mike!!

    Angelos needs to try some decaf and quit watching just CNN. If fact, he sounds freakishly like the N.O. mayor, with less obscenities!

  • aenk

    Mr Brown couldn’t even run the horse show judge business properly: he got kicked out because of incompetence.

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  • Capistrano

    Every one seems to think that government will naturally do whats best for the people: true to an extent. Big Businesses provides the capital needed to win an elections. Big businesses like Oil companies and Arms manufacturers. They have to get paid back at some point in time, Arms stock piles and bullets have to be used, so we find reasons like Saddam. After all, we can’t just keep making bombs and bullets and never use em??? Who would that benefit.
    Oil is the blood in which ALL economic activity flows, as long as economies are expanding and wars are being fought, oil will flow and rise.
    Forget about your solar cars and 250 mpg Prius.
    If Toyota even thinks about marketing any thing like that, the US will find a reason to invade Japan again.
    Dreamers, were you asleep in school during business class and economics??

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