How The Times covers the internet

How The Times covers the internet

: Remember how in grade school you found out you were getting the mean or old or bad or weird teacher and you realized you could do nothing but lump it for the year? Or think now how you feel when you get on a six-hour flight and find yourself sitting next to the talkative or double-wide or weird passenger and you realize you have to lump it for the duration.

Well, internet compatriots, it appears we are sitting next to Sarah Boxer of The New York Times for sometime to come.

That came out in the exchange over Boxer’s unjournalism about Iraqi bloggers when, at the bottom of Dan Okrent’s response to my complaints, NYT culture editor Jonathan Landman revealed what Boxer’s job is supposed to be:

Sarah is a critic (she’s done art, photography & theater) with a new beat: Arts & ideas on the Internet. It’s an experiment with fuzzy boundaries….

Well, we have two choices about this. We can take Boxer’s story as an indication of her ability and bias — and Landman’s news judgment — and kick and complain about it. That’s what we’re known for, isn’t it? Or we can try to teach them. That is what Prof. Jay Rosen tries to do in his analysis of the Landman response to my complaints: He tries to show them what they are really saying about the internet in this assignment.

Landman says the aim of the Boxer article was to convey a situation in its opacity. But good reporting is ordinarily the opposite of that: the situation should be more intelligible, and less opaque, when a Times journalist gets done with it. This did not happen with the Boxer piece.

“Sarah was trying to give a sense of the befuddling complexity of an Internet brouhaha.” She was? Who told her to do that? It seems like a more appropriate place to begin the assignment. Culture Desk to Sarah: “All we have here is the befuddling complexity of an Internet brouhaha; maybe you can sort it out.” That’s the journalism part, isn’t it? The finished report is supposed to reduce the “befuddling complexity” of the online world, not produce a more exquisite sense of it.

The article, according to Landman, is “saying that there are lots of wild charges flying around.” It is? Well, why do we need that? “Lots of wild charges getting thrown around” is where a good reporter begins. That is not where the thoroughly reported piece is supposed to wind up.

Something else Boxer was trying to give a sense of, according to her editor: “the layers of potential manipulation what with astroturfing and blogtrolling and invisible dueling backers.” Potential manipulation is what journalism is supposed to overcome, not be “about.” That is true in cultural reporting, in arts journalism, and in every other kind I know of.

“Pro-American Iraqi Blog Provokes Intrigue and Vitriol,” read the headline on Boxer’s piece. Now I know there’s intrigue. Now I know there’s vitriol. When do we get to the journalism?

This is journalism 101, isn’t it? Why are we here? Why are we reporting? Why are we publishing? Why are people paying us? I thought we were here to inform. Landman is saying we’re here to confuse. I don’t need to pay a buck a day to be confused, thank you; I’m confused for free. But Landman has a defense and Rosen punctures it:

Landman explains: it should have been labeled a “Critic’s Notebook.” But that means way more to insiders than everyone else.

Buzzmachine by Jeff Jarvis: now that’s a critic’s notebook! We can page through it and find Jeff’s thoughts–good and bad, right and wrong–on just about everything he cares about, including Iraq The Model, which Jarvis has championed.

And then Jay comes in for the zinger that says it all and it’s a warning to Boxer’s future subjects: the internet, otherwise known as us.

Here’s what I think: Sarah Boxer’s article about Iraq the Model was really about the Net and how you can’t trust anyone or anything that originated on it. Leaving the situation opaque, at the level of a brouhaha, was part of the point. (And in that context, suggesting a CIA connection served quite well.) It remains, however, a strange assignment.

I hope Boxer and Landman and The Times stop and ask themselves why they’re assigning and reporting and publishing the story. How does it inform? If it doesn’t, should you be killing trees — or worse — for this?

Now let me make my own constructive suggestion to Boxer and Landman: If you’re going to report on the internet, you have to dive into the internet. This isn’t just about reading or looking at pages or sitting in a theater, people; that’s the old-media way, the one-way way. The internet isn’t a gallery. The internet is a conversation. You must join in the conversation to experience and report on it. You would not write a travel piece about Berlin without going there and living the place. Well, you can’t write credibly about the internet without going there, either. Take it from me — a fellow journalist, after all — I didn’t understand blogs until I blogged. So here’s my advice:

Blog.

Sarah Boxer and Jonathan Landman: Start your own blogs. You want to be on the fuzzy edge, then be the first on your block at 43rd Street to put your own views. After all, you are critics. Critics are allowed to have opinions. So share your critical perspective with the audience — and learn what comes next. It won’t hurt (anymore than this). It will teach you what the internet and blogs are really about. It will give you better — more truthful — stories. You will learn that we are deeper than our caricature. And we will learn that you’re deeper than a column of 2-D type.

Blog.

42 responses to “How The Times covers the internet”

  1. Anton Avatar

    Jeff, right on. I recently blogged about how I thought NPR and NYT would cover surfing if that watersport was just becoming popular today. See my post at http://mistersugar.com/article/3851/blogs-podcasts. My advice was same as yours: get yourself on a damn surfboard before you ridicule people for frolicking in the waves and falling off.

  2. /pd Avatar

    hehehehe ..
    “Asked and answered, counselor. See my post yesterday. The issue is the absolutely groundless speculation about ties to the FCC or DoD.” – Jeff Jarvis !!
    Good rebuttal Jeff !! Yup, They need to blog !

  3. Jeff Jarvis Avatar

    pd: uh, yeah, CIA…. i get my bad guys confused.

  4. Yehudit Avatar

    I find it amusing that Boxer is supposed to be this young cutting edge arts hipster and she sounds like such an old fuddy-duddy who can’t figure out how to get hold of this new media.
    And here’s grizzled old hipster Jeff Jarvis patiently explaining it to her. Tee hee.

  5. Shinobi Avatar

    To true Yehundit.
    I also find it amusing that she works for the NYTs and I’m a numbers geek, and that article reads like something I would have written in highschool.

  6. ForNow Avatar

    Way. Too. Nice.
    Critic shmitic. She is a reviewer.
    Young person on the

  7. WichitaBoy Avatar

    The Boxer article outrages you because you presume that the NYT is seeking to print accurate information.
    If, instead, you think of it as a propagada machine whose job it is to create the party narrative, then the situation clarifies. If you think of the NYT, in other words, as simply Pravda-on-the-Hudson, the scales fall from your eyes.
    Now, the NYT is under serious threat from the internet as a source of real information completely outside its control. How do you expect it to respond? And, viewing it as a propaganda machine, what sort of narrative do you expect it to create about the internet as a source of information?

  8. Hovig Avatar

    Jeff – I have the same reaction when I listen to NPR (played in the mornings and evenings on my classical music station). They always complain, but never resolve. They always present opinions, but never edify.
    This morning on Morning Edition they spoke to three random groups of people about the State of the Union Address. An 83-year-old man said something like “of course there will always be money in Social Security; they’re bonds, and bonds always pay.” NPR made no attempt to explain what a bond is, or why it’s essentially an IOU. They just put a statement out there by some guy sitting at the Democrat’s Table at a retirement home. They also did the same from some woman at a bar, who said, “We got Saddam Hussein, so now we’re done, and we can come home now.”
    This isn’t journalism, this isn’t even intelligent conversation. It’s nonsense.
    I don’t have anything against vox-pop, but at least someone needs to do better than “he said, she said,” and leave it at that.
    I first noticed this during the Gingrich years. The media would say “Clinton says social security needs XYZ,” then say “Gingrich says social security needs ABC.” What’s with “says”?
    And as I look at nytimes.com this morning, sure enough, half the headlines have some version of “says” in them. “This guy says!” “That guy says!” Never mind who says what. Tell us what the facts are, or at least what the trends are. Tell us what the effects of the trends are. Tell us the history, give us some perspective.
    Or are you afraid we might just make up our own minds???
    This isn’t journalism, this is nonsense. Thanks Jeff for keeping on top of it.

  9. Old Grouch Avatar
    Old Grouch

    “This isn’t journalism, this is nonsense.”
    But it’s so much easier than doing any real research. And so in keeping with the postmodernist meme that there are no truths (and no facts, either), only opinions.

  10. Richard Bennett Avatar

    The point of all this is that the Times is paying Boxer to trash the net because they’re scared of it.
    And they’re dumb enough to think she can succeed.

  11. Anne Avatar

    I am starting to think that people can be divided into those prone to believing conspiracy theories and those who want to see some proof. I am also starting to think that an awful lot of left-wing types are in the first category. Way more than I would have thought.
    So to them, it seems like a legitimate item to research — they don’t see it as a crackpot conspiracy theorist.

  12. oodja Avatar

    Why is it that merely suggesting that some blogs out there might be propaganda – for the Right or the Left – gets you slapped down as a “crackpot conspiracy theorist”?
    It used to be that you really needed to work to get that moniker, spending years upon years demonstrating how the moon landings were faked or how JFK was really abducted by aliens before his android double was seemingly assassinated by the guy who wrote The Da Vinci Code.
    Now raise the possibility that someone clicking to agree with Blogger’s terms of service might not be on the level (GASP!) and you’re lumped in with all of the above? If I were a real crackpot conspiracy theorist, I’d be mighty pissed off at the comparison.

  13. Yehudit Avatar

    “The Boxer article outrages you because you presume that the NYT is seeking to print accurate information.”
    I think Jeff is outraged because he used to think the NYT was accurate and he knows people there, so it’s a personal issue for him.

  14. Ed Rusch Avatar

    > You will learn that we are deeper than our caricature.
    Actually, Jeffo, you’re not. You’re precisely the caricature: you’re a post-middle-aged white guy wannabe pundit pissed off at the world. Snappy the Clam has you all to rights.

  15. oodja Avatar

    Disclaimer: I’m not one of those Leftists who believe IraqTheModel must be propaganda simply because it’s pro-occupation, so don’t even go there. However, using the idiocy of more overzealous leftists in this regard to dismiss out of hand the possibility that some of our news sources in Iraq aren’t legit is just plain silly.

  16. Sandy P Avatar

    I would think that “internet brouhaha” would say it all, they’re trying to discredit.
    Didn’t like that phrase when I read it. It was dismissal.

  17. Yehudit Avatar

    From TKS at NRO:
    “I said last night on Hugh’s program that Thursday morning papers would be the measuring stick, to see if anyone in the mainstream media would pay attention to Eason Jordan’s remarks and his bombshell accusation that the U.S. military was targeting journalists in Iraq…Well, today there

  18. Harkonnendog Avatar

    The defense is ridiculous. It is like the director of a horrible slasher movie telling critics that he made it horrible on purpose to expose how slasher movies are horrible.
    Or like a mock trial judge screwing up, letting the wrong school win, and then saying they did it on purpose because real judges screw up.

  19. tom Avatar

    Jeff,
    Your RSS feed keeps republishing this item.

  20. gandhi Avatar

    Congratulations, Jeff, and welcome to the GOP. How much are they paying you to trash the NYT? Are you on Direct Impact’s payroll, or do you collect your fees direct from party sources?
    In case you missed it, Boxer’s article actually dismissed the likelihood that Ali Fadhil is on the CIA payroll – so what is your gripe?
    Is the whole story just a bit too uncomfortable for the forces that be?
    FACT: The CIA actually DOES fund US PsyOps in Iraq (anyone want to deny that?)
    FACT: Iraq The Model and their US sponsors fit the US PsyOps profile, in spades.
    If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish, and swims like a fish, it probably IS a fish.
    Instead of slagging Boxer, how about addressing the FACTS???

  21. /pd Avatar

    Gandhi: Psyops are run by the Military. BlackOps are run by CIA..’nuff said

  22. Yehudit Avatar

    Telling comment on the media in Iraq:
    ” Even reporters on the ground in Iraq could hardly believe what they were living through as they watched the power of an idea transmute into the living, breathing form of black-clad women, Marsh Arabs and throngs of Kurdish mountaineers festively making their way to the polls.
    The father of a young reporter who has spent most of the last two years in Iraq shared with me his son’s e-mail from Baghdad. “We journalists are all sitting round and asking each other how we missed what’s clearly a far deeper drive for political and societal change than we realized. It is a measure of our isolation here — and also, I think, a measure of how the violence and humiliation of the occupation has masked people’s very genuine feelings.””
    We knew, but the reporters didn’t. Thanks to reading the milblogs and Iraqi blogs, I KNEW voting turnout would be high. I had no doubt. I was gratified to read about all those people walking to the polls, but I was not surprised.
    But these reporters, whose job it is to find and report the news – they were surprised.
    “how the violence and humiliation of the occupation has masked people’s very genuine feelings.” – no, you still don’t get it. People’s real feelings were simply other than you imagined, because all you looked for was humiliation and rage at the US. All you looked for were projections and confirmation of your OWN feelings toward Bush. Iraqis desire for freedom and national unity was right there in front of you, not masked. But you didn’t want to see it.

  23. Fred Avatar

    For gandhi, of course, it’s all about OIIIIIL. Surprised you didn’t rope Halliburton into it and the conspiracy to build an Afghan pipeline. Falling down on your leftist conspiracy-mongering obligations just a bit.

    Again, the question is why? Where did these stocks come from? What is their purpose? Are corporate oil industry interests behind the motives of Cyber Century Forum? Does that explain their interest in Spirit of America, and hence Iraq The Model?

  24. Old Grouch Avatar
    Old Grouch

    “If it looks like a fish, smells like a fish, and swims like a fish, it probably IS a fish.”
    Could be a dolphin. ;-)

  25. DensityDuck Avatar
    DensityDuck

    So here’s a question: If Boxer had published Ali’s full name on a blog — like you did well before her NYT article — would you have been as upset?

  26. Tim Gannon Avatar

    The question is, “What will happen to these reporters when they are paid good money to report the situation in Iraq and they MISS the story?”
    Will their incompetence be rewarded? After all, they, like Dan Rather, showed physical courage by being there, but no professional courage.

  27. gandhi Avatar

    Psyops are run by the Military. BlackOps are run by CIA..
    Gosh darn it! There goes my whole argument down in flames. I bow to your superior intellect!
    I mean, really.
    Who needs FACTS when nit-picking is so much more fun.

  28. gandhi Avatar

    Could be a dolphin.
    If you don’t look closely enough.

  29. WichitaBoy Avatar

    Yehudit,
    “he used to think the NYT was accurate”
    The NYT was accurate. The key word is “was”.

  30. Richard Bennett Avatar

    The whole CIA-ITM fantasy was first raised on the Martini Republic blog, and amply refuted in comments before Boxer even picked it up. So even if her goal was simply to report on an Internet flame war, she didn’t succeed because the war had already been resolved before she falsely reported on it.
    Even the Martini boys admitted it was a load, in other words.

  31. gandhi Avatar

    The whole CIA-ITM fantasy was first raised on the Martini Republic blog…
    Not true. Dozens of anti-war posters at Iraq The Model came to the same conclusion (like me) after they were flamed, abused, threatened and banned.
    The only reason the Martini Republic story got attention is because it was mentioned by a very respected and widely-read ME commentator, Juan Cole.

  32. Richard Bennett Avatar

    That’s “the arrogant Juan Cole” to you, little-g Gandhi.
    In any event, Boxer pretended to report on the AJC/MR kerfuffle, but neglected to mention its resolution, which is that nobody but freaks thinks there ever was any basis for the speculation of a CIA/ITM connection.
    (Little-g, you would be in the “freaks” category, because: “if it looks like a freak, sounds like a freak, OD’s like a freak, it’s probably a freak.”)

  33. TomB Avatar

    Ghandi, you wrote on your blog, among other things, that Roger L. Simon was “notoriously right wing”.
    Could you please give us Roger’s stance on the issues that make him “right wing”?

  34. Richard Bennett Avatar

    Must be Simon’s support for gay marriage in particular and human rights in general. Left-wingers nowaday say “let them eat cake” to the poor and downtrodden.

  35. Micah Sifry Avatar

    Jeff–
    I had dinner a week ago with a young Times reporter who told me the paper has an explicit policy prohibiting blogging by any of its reporters. There’s a little wiggle room if someone wants to write about their gardening hobby, but basically no blogging about their work. It sounds like some people within the institution understand how backwards this policy is, but your plea isn’t going to go anywhere anytime soon…
    Micah

  36. thinker Avatar

    Bravo Jeff! Bravo!

  37. Bryan Avatar

    Boxer could well be trying to establish the need to revisit this subject. Her written outlook on blogs may well find an audience among people whose perception of blogs is relatively undeveloped, skeptical, or wholly dismissive. This audience may not know the first thing about blogs, and Boxer will be only too happy to act as their guide as the media infant grows. NYT columns, guest appearances, book deal, book tour, syndication, lecture circuit, teaching position…
    This blog piece suggests Boxer may be better at marketing than journalism.

  38. TomB Avatar

    Why does ghandi alway disappear when he is asked what should be simple questions?
    I asked him a few on Ali’s blog and he ran away too.

  39. DensityDuck Avatar
    DensityDuck

    “Are you ready to admit that you’re just a troll?” isn’t a question.

  40. ForNow Avatar

    Nobody is trying to rule out the possibility of the CIA

  41. TomB Avatar

    “Are you ready to admit that you’re just a troll?” isn’t a question.

    Rhetorical.

  42. big dirigible Avatar

    “You would not write a travel piece about Berlin without going there and living the place.”
    Strangely enough, the only person I know who actually writes travel pieces for the press does exactly that. She reads up a bit on wherever it is she’s supposed to write about, and just makes up the eyewitness stuff. Somebody might notice if she wrote about Berlin, but she mainly does locales nobody’s ever heard of (like Rooster Poot) or has heard of but won’t admit to visiting (like Bismarck, ND).
    This person isn’t a diabolical genius, just a divorcee trying to earn a living, and not doing it very well.