Alterman agonistes

Alterman agonistes
: So I ran into Eric Alterman at the New York Mag/Guardian media/war confab (overblogged, below).

I thought it was a friendly how-do-you-do during the coffee break: Good to see you, Eric.

Eric thought otherwise and took out after me. He said he almost responded to my “attack” on him (here and here) regarding his stance on attacks on Jews in France.

To recap: He said that the attacks were coming from Muslim immigrants angered by the occupation of Palestine. I said that by seeing a motive other than hate he is ascribing a justification to anti-Semitism and that is a moral mistake.

We went back and forth for a few minutes. He said he was trying to learn and understand the reasons behind these acts. I said he was giving a hate crime credit for rationality it does not deserve. He made some metaphor about learning the behavior of mosquitoes so he can avoid them. I tried to make a joke that he just saw me as a pest now. He was not to be amused, not to be trifled with.

A TV crew was getting ready to interview him and had its camera turned pointed in our direction. Alterman pushed the microphone away and snapped, “I’m not talking to you.”

He turned to me and said, “Your attack is unfair.” Then je walked away.

I want to emphasize that we had a perfectly friendly conversation later. That’s not my point.

What’s interesting here is what happens when bloggers meet after having a disagreement onine. So we had a public disagreement. Happens. But that apparently festered in private. Well, I say the better thing to do is to continue the discussion in public until you work it out (unlikely) or tire out. I wish Eric had responded, in public and in kind; that’s oddly easier to deal with than a private spat.

You talk to my blog, you talk to me. Talk to me, talk to my blog.

7 responses to “Alterman agonistes”

  1. Yehudit Avatar

    Time to start an Alterman Watch. How low can he go?
    PS Your comment section doesn’t remember my info

  2. David Block Avatar
    David Block

    Meet Eric Alterman the Asshole. If anyone wonders where the idea of big media snobbery comes from, look at that behavior.
    He sounds like he could use some Prozac.

  3. c monks Avatar
    c monks

    Ugh. This post is just a little too passive aggressive for my taste, Jeff. You paint yourself as cool, calm and collected while depicting Alterman as an overly defensive, neurotic nellie. Your proposal to work it out in public comes off more like egging him on, and for me represents the very reason blogs can get so tiresome. The “blogosphere” has enough pissing contests as it is. Here’s hoping that the generally fun and informative Buzzmachine doesn’t get mired in one.

  4. Jeff Jarvis Avatar

    I’m actually not trying to start a snarkfest with Eric here. If I wanted to snark, I’d snark. No, I’m saying that he had a big beef with what I said and I’m acknowledging that in public and I think that’s only fair; I’m saying that if he thinks I was unfair, he should be all means say so; this medium is about debate.

  5. Diana Avatar

    I said that by seeing a motive other than hate he is ascribing a justification to anti-Semitism and that is a moral mistake.
    Jeff, is it a moral mistake to see a motive TO hate? I’m not excusing hate if I think that there are rational reasons behind hate. (Not that I necessarily agree with Alterman’s reasoning here; although I don’t think he is totally wrong.)

  6. Jackie D Avatar

    No one thinks as highly of Eric Alterman as Eric Alterman does, which is obvious from both what he says and the way he conducts himself. I’d consider it an honour and an amusement to have hit a nerve with someone like him.

  7. button Avatar

    Jeff, Eric seems to think this encounter with you just amounts to bumping into you on the line at Zabar’s. You can’t expect him to write a whole novel about every time he runs into another writer at the deli :-)