If blogs could talk…

If blogs could talk…
: Arianna Huffington should be crowned the fairy godmother of bloggers. At lunch today in Grand Central, The Week magazine (my favorite magazine these days) brought together a panel to talk about media bias and Huffington grabbed the microphone to announce that not everything about the media is bad:

The good news is what is going on on the Internet — the bloggers.

It was not the mainstream media that got rid of Henry Kissinger [as head of the 9.11 commission]. It was the bloggers on the Internet….

It was not the mainstream media that got rid of Trent Lott as majority leader — it was the bloggers that kept the drumbeat on.

: It was a panel discussion over shrimp salad — “Media Bias: Left or Right?” — with Eric Alterman of MSNBC.com; Janeane Garofalo, comedian and “social activist;” William McGowan, author of “Coloring the News;” Huffington, and the venerable Harold Evans as moderator. Tina Brown wandered the crowd (talking about her new TV show); Georgette Mosbacher and Ed Rollins were shoehorned into a table over here; New York landmarks Herman Badillo and Abe Hirshfeld over there. It was a crowded, seated New York cocktail party without the cocktails. All that and Gary Hart phoned in.

: What was most interesting was that the discussion didn’t want to stay on the media (gawd, discussions about the media can be boring). The discussion was dying to move to war. That’s where the heat is now, that’s where the buzz is buzzing. It is topic A.

: Garofola came off like a pathetic whining celebrity. She has been riding the talk-show circuit as an anti-war celeb and it’s making her batty.

She complained that it’s as “if actors are not allowed First Amendment rights, not allowed to have opinions.”

Oh, come on! If you were Janeane Dow, nobody would be inviting you onto FoxNews and MSNBC and to shrimp-salad debates. It’s because you’re famous and only because you’re famous that your blather is amplified.

: She didn’t stop complaining. Asked whether the press is pro-war, she said: “The press is biased in favor of rating and war equals ratings.”

McGowan accused her of “prattling banalities.”

: Even the polite prattle and blather here was soon too much for her. She just slunk into the scenery and said, “I think it’s best if I bow out…. for the rest of my life.”

Being famous and trying to save the world is such a damned burden.

: Huffington was Ms. Soundbite. She called the media shallow, toxic, obsessive, monomanic, repetitive, lazy, conformist, and risk-averse.

Everybody had a soundbite. McGowan called mainstream media “the PC press.” Alterman called it a “right-wing punditocracy.”

Hart complained that when big corporations took over the media “the distance between information and entertainment was dismissed and now it’s all entertainment all the time.”

They don’t love us. They really don’t love us.

: And then Eric Burns, FoxNews’ surprisingly boring media guy (why would FoxNews of all networks have such a starched dork as its media critic?), got up to talk about the media and bore the hell out of the audience. I sunk into my shrimp. In the wrong hands, the media can be the most boring cocktail-party topic you can imagine. That’s why people here would rather talk about war.

: And it was over. I got my coat and happened by Alterman, so I introduced myself. I decided to introduce myself as a blogger, considering the company (rather than by my business-card bio) and judging by the look in Alterman’s eye and the quick dismissal it was as if I has just introduced myself as a “poet,” an “activist,” or a “Raelian.” I felt like some kinda nut. I should have introduced myself to Huffington instead.

14 responses to “If blogs could talk…”

  1. HH Avatar

    Alterman and McGowan are also having a debate over the portrayal of McGowan’s book in Alterman’s book.
    http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a35.asp
    http://www.mediabistro.com/articles/cache/a36.asp

  2. mark safranski Avatar

    I’ve exchanged views with Eric over the net on several occasions. If you really care to get under his skin, simply inquire when the NATION magazine is going to begin running columns by Patrick Buchanan

  3. Marquis de Side Avatar
    Marquis de Side

    Eric Burns is boring?!? He has a wonderful, if dry, sense of humor. You must be one of those people who thought Herblock was funny.

  4. Dean Esmay Avatar

    I’m so tired of the media bias debate. For God’s sake, look at any poll done on the issue for the last 20 years, and you’ll find that about half of America belives the media is to their left, and maybe 10-15% believe it’s to their right.
    Either people are idiots who are manipulated by clever conservatives who’ve brainwashed them, or they’ve got common sense and they see what they see.
    I say the market’s doing a good job of correcting the problem, and the left’s in a tailspin because they’re used to the domination they used to have and can sense it slipping away. The denial appears to be little but an attempt to stanch the hemmorhage of alternative news and views. Or it’s whistling past the graveyard, if you want a better metaphor.

  5. ZKA Avatar

    Um, actually, the job of the media is to stand in oppostion to power, no matter who it is, so that we the people can have some idea of what they are actually doing. It doesn’t matter what the polls say. The idea that news should be controlled by market forces is ridculous. It shouldn’t even be a profit center.
    The result is what we’re beginning to see today– a vision out of Huxley. News that omits relevant truthful information because it’s afraid that ratings might fall and news that treats war, death and destruction as entertainment. The most real reality show…
    The market is amoral. It cannot be the arbiter of truth. I remind those who believe otherwise recall that there once was a thriving market for slaves in this nation.

  6. Kevin Murphy Avatar

    The job of the media is to be a witness: to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. Speaking Truth to Power goes a clause too far; power should be ignored and all that matters is truth. If that means telling truth to the poor and downtrodden, don’t you think they deserve truth as much anyone else? It takes courage to tell the truth both to weakness and power.

  7. David Perron Avatar
    David Perron

    I think some people have the notions of witnessing truth and of opposition all mixed up. Those same people have a few other things mixed up, too.
    Get it? Not all dissent is noble. If you think making an ass out of yourself in the name of some notionally noble cause is making you a better person, go right ahead. Just don’t expect us to refrain from squashing youmaking fun of you.

  8. Jim Avatar

    Speaking truth to power is one of the dumbest slogans I’ve ever heard.
    I think the appropriate response (if you’re going to get sucked into it) is Power already knows the Truth. How do you think they got the power?

  9. Kate Coie Avatar
    Kate Coie

    When has the media ever stood in opposition to power? See Ben Bradlee:the JFK Years.
    Would anyone have wanted a media that stood up to FDR during WWII?
    Media is there to report. People can choose which report suits them–thus the power of the free market. YOu can get all your news from The Enquirer or you can get it all from FOX or you can choose the Washington Post or you can choose all of the above and that’s beauty of the free press.

  10. Flip Avatar

    ZKA: Regarding that “market for slaves” comment. It was the “market of ideas,” wherein slavery was condemned as morally wrong, that helped bring it to an end, not just here but in the handful of other places it happened. Almost all of those places, it must be noted are Western, capitalist societies.

  11. ZKA Avatar

    Ah yes. The “market of ideas.” Well, even the market of ideas is amoral. It is not the existence of an “idea marketplace” that determines whether an idea itself is moral or not. It is the belief in certain fundamental tenants of human existence that *help us* determine whether something is moral or not. The market, no matter how many ideas it has, is still amoral and thus incapable of producing a moral outcome *on its own.* It needs our help.
    A lot of Americans treat capitalism like it is a religion. Blind faith in outcomes. The invisible hand of the “marketplace god.” Avoidance of examining serious shortcomings in “the faith.” Geez. Talk about idolatry in a “Christian” nation.
    Actually, I’m in sync with the great majority of the marketplace idea, but it’s not a religion worthy of our worship and must be watched and studied and questioned routinely.
    To connect this to the actual point…
    It is possible to do evil in the name of the market. Why? Because the market only rewards what is profitable, not what is right.
    Our news institutions should be insulated from the pressures of market capitalism like they used to be, NOT because market capitalism is evil (it isn’t), but because it is amoral.
    If suddenly fascism were to take hold in the US, the media would find it difficult not to be forced in the direction of fascism because ratings and advertising dollars (market forces) would drive the argument. If the argument against fascism weren’t popular, ratings would be low. Ad revenues would be low, and the news outlet, as a necessary business decision, would have to respond by changing the message to be in tune with fascism so that stockholders could realize a return on their investment.

  12. Kate Coie Avatar
    Kate Coie

    Quote: “Our news institutions should be insulated from the pressures of market capitalism like they used to be”
    When did this ever happen? Do you know nothing of the history of newspapers in this country? Does the name Hearst mean anything to you? Walter Winchell? Chavez in Venezuela is trying for a state-controlled press, free from the pressures of the market, and free from the pressures of printing anything other than what the state wants citizens to hear.
    Sorry, but a goverement controlled media is the last thing I want–I’ll go with the market every time.

  13. ZKA Avatar

    Nice that you pulled only one sentence from all that I said to refute. Must mean that I’m dead on otherwise.
    Now you see Kate, what you’ve said is a very good example of “either/or” thinking. Critical thinking skills are useful in a situation like this.
    It’s not “either we have government controlled media or we have the jungle of the marketplace.” There’s some room for grey in the middle. Example?
    Is C-SPAN government controlled? No. But it’s shielded very well from market capitalism. We would all praise C-SPAN for the quality AND SPECTRUM of political information that they offer us. And yet “we” have such a poverty of vision for our democracy and democratic institutions as to think that news should be a profit-oriented affair.
    Broadcast news as a profit center in a corporation is VERY recent to this country.
    Free your mind from worshiping at the altar of the free market. It’s good for making widgets and we might all get rich from making and selling them. But it’s bad for informing a republic that needs to know what its government and corporate power elite are up to.

  14. PG Avatar

    Alterman’s getting tired of this story. For the second or third time, today he tried to set the record straight.
    ‘I spoke at a panel at Michael Jordan’s organized by “The Week.” A million people came up to talk to me afterward, including my parents and my spouse, and I was about to catch a Metroliner to Providence to see Bruce.
    ‘Somebody introduced himself to me as a “fellow blogger.” I said “Hi, nice to meet you” or some such thing, and turned back to the conversation I was already having, so I could get out of there in time to get to Penn Station.
    ‘There was no “dismissal” just a lot of people around. Are all bloggers this sensitive?’
    I link to Alterman, I send him e-mail (and he is kind enough to put it on his blog and thank me), I recommend and quote his work to my friends, and I still wouldn’t expect him to ignore people he knows in favor of me, a stranger.
    Alterman had a story last week about the time he went up to Lou Reed while Reed was eating. Reed wasn’t interested in talking to him. Alterman was not offended. Take note, Jeff Jarvis.
    —————-
    I would have loved a media that spoke truth to power during the FDR WWII years. Maybe then we wouldn’t have had the national embarrassment — and tragedy — of the Japanese internment. If anything like that happens again (although I don’t think it will), I pray that our media will have the guts to stand up and say that it’s wrong.
    Moreover, a lot of people are bitching about CNN’s refusal to speak truth to power when the power was Saddam Hussein and the truth was the level of inhumanity in his regime.