A nation of hairy palms

Sen. Sam Brownback, America’s prude-in-chief, just held hearings so his handpicked witnesses could decry the dangers of porn.

“This is not just a simple, benign form of expression, but rather a potentially addictive substance,” explained one of the subcommittee’s panelists, Jill Manning, a sociologist from Brigham Young University.

Not a party school, that.

Pornography, she continued, had been shown to increase the risk of divorce, decrease marital intimacy and cause misunderstandings about the prevalence of less common sex practices like group sex, bestiality and sadomasochistic activity. Men are not the only victims. Women, she said, make up about 30 percent of the audience for online pornography.

Yes, first playboy and before you know it you’re hooked on bestiality. This is the Reefer Madness of our age. But here’s the worst of it, another voice from Utah:

Sen. Orrin Hatch attended a portion of the hearing to voice his support for a clampdown on pornography. He compared explicit sexual material to high-fat food and secondhand smoke, saying this was a “problem of harm, not an issue of taste.” “America is more sex-ridden than any country in world history,” said Utah’s senior senator, quoting a 25-year-old study.

Why don’t we just tax sex? That’d solve everything: No more budget deficit. No more sex for conservative prudes. Thus no more conservative prudes. Thus no more silly crap like this.

  • ArtD0dger

    Hmm. The Meese commission invented the “snuff film” to justify their clampdown. What similarly twisted fantasies do you suppose the new prudes are indulging in?

  • Bring it on, and be sure to study the works of I. Libby ( I for illicit?) et al. For more good examples, go to http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000281.htm

  • Much online porn comes from Eastern Europe. Another industry outsourced…

    Short of putting Chinese-style internet filters and censors on all traffic what do the morally upset want to do about it?

    Sounds like more pre-election pandering to me.

  • “Thus no more silly crap like this”

    What part is the silly part Jeff? The fact of the matter is that study after study clearly shows porn to be adictive, and harmful to all it touches from the participants to the connoisseurs. Are we to just take your word for it that the content of Jill Manning’s presentation is just “silly crap?”

    Afterall, your credentials for waxing forth on this subject are indeed impeccable, i.e., former TV Critic for TV Guide, and creator of Entertainment Weekly. Why should we pay any attention to any of the studies that support Jill Manning?

    See for example:




    There are many, many more studies and individuals much more qualifed than a former TV critic for TV Guide to render an informed opinion on the evils of pornography.

    Of course, it’s pretty easy to take cheap shots at the person, rather than the content of their message. Ms. Manning is a PhD student in Marriage and Family Therapy.


    So, naturally we ought to give greater weight to your much more informed opinion (as a former TV critic for TV Guide) on the subject than one who is spending a great deal of time and scholastic effort to actually study the issue.

    True, BYU is no party school. I’ve actually been on campus, have you? Imagine that, a campus where one doesn’t have to read about student deaths attributed to binge drinking. Or one that doesn’t sell pornography at the book store. Ranked 71 by U.S. News and World report in their rankings of U.S. Best Colleges, I can see why you would immediately discount the institution as well as the scholar.


    Sorry Jeff, the only “silly crap” here is your inane post.

  • Ed Poinsett

    Guy Murray

    You can find a study that fits your needs on any subject. My favorite is the myth about second hand smoke. Believe me, if there were any actuarial proof of that, insurance companies wouldn’t sell non-smoker policies to anyone who lives with a smoker. Regards

  • Ed Poinsett

    Thanks for the pointer. You’re absolutely right. Except that there are some studies much more reliable than others:



    By the way, have you read the one about the “Flat Earth?”


    Regards as well.

  • Well, Guy, without God-given sex, we wouldn’t be here.

  • Jeff, I’m sure you’re bright enough to realize that sex is not the same as pornography–never has been, never will be. How unfortunate you equate the two.

  • Jeff-

    To equate “God-given sex” with the repugnance that is most porn is ridiculous and beneath you.


  • You know, tevelvangelists generally pull stunts like this right before they’re arrested for soliciting prostitution.

    I bet you could make a killing selling keyboard hair removal vacuums in Utah.

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  • Impacted Colon

    Hands off my sheep, government prudes! Er, your hands off my sheep, I mean, of course. Especially Mathilda.

  • If one is born of sexual relations one shall be liable to taxation, and so we already do tax sex, or at least its occassional result.

  • Spiffy

    Brian Baute, where do you get your repugnant porn? All I can ever find is naked people screwing.

  • Mike G

    Politician Gentlemen, we have to find something new to tax.
    Second Official I understood that.
    Third Official If I might put my head on the chopping block so you can kick it around a bit, sir…
    Politician Yes?
    Third Official Well most things we do for pleasure nowadays are taxed, except one.
    Politician What do you mean?
    Third Official Well, er, smoking’s been taxed, drinking’s been taxed but not … thingy.
    Politician Good Lord, you’re not suggesting we should tax… thingy?
    First Official Poo poo’s?
    Third Official No.
    First Official Thank God for that. Excuse me for a moment. (leaves)
    Third Official No, no, no – thingy.
    Second Official Number ones?
    Third Official No, thingy.
    Politician Thingy!
    Second Official Ah, thingy. Well it’ll certainly make chartered accountancy a much more interesting job.

    –Monty Python

  • Jim S

    Did you even read the papers you linked to, Guy? The first is just a paper by a graduate student, possibly his doctoral thesis. It is not a study but simply cites some studies done by other people. It’s not even by a social scientist, psychologist or psychiatrist but someone in the school of communications.

    Also, here is the conclusion to the second linked paper:
    ” This paper has provided an overview of the limited effects – powerful effects debate about pornography. From this presentation, it should be clear that just like debates about television violence or the effect of the mass media in general, there are no clear answers. As such, it would seem that the best conclusion one can reach about the effect of pornography is that it “does not serve as a necessary and sufficient cause of audience effects, but rather functions among and through a nexus of mediating factors and influences (Klapper, 1960).” Thus bringing us full circle, back to the limited effects conclusion that sparked pornography research in the first place.”.

    Not exactly a ringing endorsement of your condemnation.

  • Tim

    Don’t use non original papers…

    My Life, My Blog.

  • As much as I agree with those who testified as to the detrimental effects of porn on both the individual and the family, I cannot condone the federal government wasting its valuable time and resources policing it,

  • Jorge

    I do not think Phallic worshiping is an ideal pursuit for the human race. It should be discouraged by society.

    Having said that my question is . Who in the Republican administration is worshiping GANNON-GUKKURT’S DONG.

  • Jill

    (distributed by the Mormon Church to students at Brigham Young University as recently as the 1950’s – this is NOT a joke)

    Be assured that you can be cured of your difficulty. Determination is the first step. You must first decide that you will end this practice, and when you make that decision, the problem will be greatly reduced at once.

    Observe the following specific guidelines:

    Never touch the intimate parts of your body expect during the normal toilet process.

    Avoid being alone as much as possible.

    When you bathe, do not admire yourself in the mirror. Never bathe more than five or six minutes–just long enough to wash, dry and get dressed, and then GET OUT OF THE BATHROOM and into another room where someone else is present. Take cool, brief showers.

    It is sometimes helpful to have a physical object to use in overcoming this problem. In extreme cases the Book of Mormon, held firmly in the predominant hand in bed at night, has proven helpful.

    In very severe cases it may be necessary to tie the hand to the bed frame in order that the habit of masturbating in a semi-sleep condition can be broken.

    When in bed, dress for the night in layers of clothing so that you cannot easily touch yourself.

    Never read pornographic material. Keep it out of your mind. Remember–“first a thought, then an act.”

    Put wholesome thoughts into your mind at all times. Read good books, such as the New Testament, or the Book of Mormon.

    Pray, but when you pray, don’t pray about this problem. That will tend to keep it in your mind more. Pray for the missionaries, the Mormon General Authorities, and your family, BUT KEEP THE PROBLEM OUT OF YOUR MIND BY NOT MENTIONING IT IN YOUR PRAYERS.

  • Moroni

    Dear Jill, I can’t read your piece because I’ve already gone blind from masturbating to internet porn. All I can say is, now that I’m blind, I miss the good sex. I’ve now been forced to switch from erotic internet visual images to my own self generated mental erotic S&M images of Brigham Young sadistically torturing and murdering all those dozens of non-Mormon pioneer folks down at Mountain Meadows, and then taking their little kids as tiny slaves to be raised to become good Mormon wives (the cute ones anyway). When I wear out that fantasy, I start thinking about Brigham Young’s 25 sex-slaves, er, I mean “wives” (especially the sexy one who divorced him and said he was a sadist and an SOB). I especially like to fantasize about how he didn’t need artificial stim like porn because he could do four or five obedient “wives” every night, and “marry” a new young one anytine he wanted (I mean, heck, they had no other options, and he was a GOOD catch!). Hey, Ms. Manning, I’m all FOR your Mormon Plan for banning internet porn, and then the Mormon plan for banning women from working outside the home, and then allowing legal multi-marriage in Utah again and, hey, I’ll get two or three unemployed female PhD’s (or better yet, some newly unemployed female lawyers!), have our multi-marriages sealed in the temple, and then have a little sex party right at home every night, and I’d promise NEVER to masturbate ever again!

  • Very classy blog Jeff. Do you routinely allow it to be used as a forum for religious bigots?

  • kat

    He prefers unreligious bigots like you, Guy.

  • kevin

    I was searching around when i found this post and I don’t think alot of people are in the position to state your opinions about Pornography addictions and even Jill Manning. I’ve been in treatment centers for almost a year now for the past mistakes i’ve made, and for the people that have porn addictions you can see how much it effects thier life. The first time I heard of porn addictions, and I’m sure that this goes for most people, that you think its a joke or something. I can definatley say that it is no joke. I am not a member of the LDS church but i’m living in a 90% population of mormons. I don’t think this is just a “mormon” think if that is what people are thinking. I know Jill Manning and she is not just some conservative mormon. People need to research about pornography addictions before they go and bad mouth it.