Faith in the White House

Faith in the White House

: I happened by the religious PAX tv tonight — for some odd reason, it’s channel 3 on my cable system — and they’re broadcasting the most incredible hagiography I’ve ever seen: George W. Bush: Faith in the White House. I wish I had the energy to live blog the thing but I’m too damned drunk on demon rum.

  • von

    Not since the days of George Washington and Abraham Lincoln has a president put so much stock in his Christian faith and prayer life for making decisions and leading the United States in its hour of crisis.
    I don’t think it’s so horrible to be compared to George Washington and Abraham Lincoln.

  • Kat

    I put lots of stock in my Christian faith, too. I pray often. Does that make me bad? Or would you prefer a different faith in the White House??

  • Louis

    The problem is this new definition of Christian faith. It’s hard to find a chapter and verse to justify the Iraqi war. It is easy, however, other historical examples who used Christianity as an excuse for bloodshed.
    Would Christ have invaded Iraq, Mr. President?

  • von

    Louis, can you point me to where Bush said that Jesus thinks we should invade Iraq? I’d so love to see proof of that. Seriously.

  • Sandy P

    Why just focus on Christianity, Louis?
    How come not Islam?

  • Louis

    His supposed Christian actions speak louder than anything he’s said. Let’s see how long till he sends more troops over there, in spite of this evenings sermon. Maybe he’ll just call it something different. “Manpower reallocation.” Like how he redefines burger flippers as manufacturers.
    BTW, it’s kinda refreshing to know that there are a couple of staunch supporters outside the AM dial.

  • Well, everyone’s points seem to have bounced off Louis’ head with an audible ping!

  • Louis

    I thought only libs were elitist.
    Is there somewhere else you’d like to discuss this so’s we don’t take up Mr. Jarvis’ bandwidth?

  • Nah, Jesus would have merely knocked over Saddam’s table and chased him out of power with a whip.
    Seriously, tho, I remember Jimmy Carter being pretty heavily into that faith thing.

  • Eileen

    There isn’t a damn thing wrong with faith of any ‘ole stripe, unless you’re an Islamic extremist hell-bent on everyone else’s destruction as you blow yourself up. Too bad our President didn’t take the opportunity to thoroughly demonize the slaughter of innocents by Jihadis across the globe tonight. A ‘sermon’ it definitely *wasn’t*.

  • Eileen

    Yikes, Kat…
    Everyone should read that.

  • Joe

    Am I the only one who, while perfectly comfortable with Presidents *having* faith, is not terribly comfortable with them consulting that faith to make their decisions in leading the nation, no matter what faith they may be a part of?

  • jeremy in NYC

    Am I the only one who think that would have been a more interesting liveblog because he was drunk?

  • Carrick


    Am I the only one who, while perfectly comfortable with Presidents *having* faith, is not terribly comfortable with them consulting that faith to make their decisions in leading the nation, no matter what faith they may be a part of?

    Basing all of one’s decisions on faith and prayer is a very different animal that basing it on religious doctrine. Faith-based to most spiritually-active people implies an introspective process (aka “praying”), an activity very similar to meditative reflection. Personally, I would much rather have a president making decisions this way than using astrological readings (Reagan) or focus groups (Clinton).

  • What about this alleged quote from Bush, according to Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas of Palestine in the Israeli newspaper Haaretz?
    “God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East.”
    Its validity could be questionable, but it’s frightening, nonetheless.

  • whodat

    So it’s frightening if it’s not true? I searched their site and found nothing like that.

  • Well, like I said, its validity is questionable… But do a Google search for “Bush” and “god told me” and you’ll find several instances of the reference. If it’s true, it’s frightening as hell. If it’s not true…well, it’s still frightening because it’s completely believeable.

  • Linda Edwards

    NOW I remember where I heard that, Eddy. Jeesh, took me a couple of days. And wouldn’t you know this posting is about to fall off the page.
    Anyway, it went something like this:
    “Robertson, in an interview with CNN that aired Tuesday night, said God had told him the war would be messy and a disaster. When he met with Bush in Nashville, Tenn., before the war Bush did not listen to his advice, Robertson said, and believed Saddam Hussein was an evil tyrant who needed to be removed.
    “He was just sitting there, like, ‘I’m on top of the world,’ and I warned him about this war,” Robertson said.
    “I had deep misgivings about this war, deep misgivings. And I was trying to say, ‘Mr. President, you better prepare the American people for casualties.’ ‘Oh, no, we’re not going to have any casualties.’ ‘Well,’ I said, ‘it’s the way it’s going to be.’ And so, it was messy. The Lord told me it was going to be, A, a disaster and, B, messy.”
    I remember the White House said Robertson may have had some confusion about a conversation he had with Bush.