Dell hell: still burning

Dell hell, still burning

: Now it’s my hard drive that is so flawed I can’t Ghost it and the diagnostic Dell wants me run on it won’t even bother to run. So let’s add up the tally: motherboard… CPU…. memory…. wireless network…. battery…. keyboard…. case…. hard drive. What’s left? The Dell logo? No, that’s broken, too.

Home service? Complete care? Complete crap. Earlier rants here; follow the links. Went to the Apple store today with my son. If I can prove that my EVDO Verizon card will work (so I can avoid it not working and having to pay a 10 percent restocking fee), I may well follow the light.

I just got more Dellspeak: “Ms. Kolar,” says the Delly, still refusing to pay sufficient attention to get my name right — or thinking he is being cute to find some way to insult me, “I am a Supervisor at Dell and I am concerned with the problems you are having with your computer and wish to resolve them very soon.” Boilerplate babble; seen it in every email. So sincere. “In order to resolve the issue that you are facing, we need to setup a service to replace the hard drive of your system.” Notice they’re not telling me when they are going to ship me a hard drive or a computer or a refund. No, that will take more hours’ of email back and forth with somebody else on the next shift. “Please try and understand that as per Dells policy, we can not provide you with a system exchange. System warranty is there for such failures only.” Well, look at the list of everything that has gone wrong with this so-called system. I’d call that failure. But Dell won’t… not yet. “After a period of thorough troubleshooting, either over the phone or through email, when a Dell technician determines that it is necessary to replace a defective hardware component.” I just gave the guy exactly what he asked for: the results of his diagnostic. But, no, they have to slog me through the mud a little longer. “At that point, a replacement is dispatched or the system is taken into the depot for repairing.” And what about the AT-HOME REPAIR I’m paying for? Not mentioned. “And this system is still in a repairable state, so system exchange is not a possibility at the present stage.” Repairable? Says who? They’ve replaced damned near everything you can and it still doesn’t work. I don’t call that repairable. “While I say this, I don’t mean that even if the system is not repaired to your satisfaction, we cannot replace it. We can exchange the system, but only after exploiting all the possible avenues of repairing.” Like buying a Mac? Infriggingcredible.

Dell sucks. Dell lies. Don’t buy Dell. Sell Dell.

23 responses to “Dell hell: still burning”

  1. steve Avatar

    Return it…

  2. Jes Avatar

    You might check and see if your state has a “Lemon Law” that covers computers. In Michigan if they can’t fix the problem after 3 attempts they are required by law to replace it. Contact your state’s Attorney General. I hate to mention it, but I learned that trying to get my iBook repaired. It’s finally fixed though and I love it inspite of the hassle.

  3. Juris Curious Avatar
    Juris Curious

    Please read email with India/British accent attached; you will notice that it came from Bombay.

  4. Doug C Avatar

    Jeff,
    Go Powerbook! I think you’ll learn to embrace the Mac with all of your heart – I did, and that was after I made fun of Macs for years! They’re great machines – I’ve read other commenters complain about the OS, but I’ve had nothing but a complete joy working with Tiger.
    Oh and let us know about the EVDO card and the Mac.

  5. Rich Avatar

    Jeff,
    You’ll want to check out this site: http://www.evdoinfo.com/Downloads/Drivers/Mac_OS_X_Verizon_Drivers_2005021554/. The EVDO PC card should Just Work, depending on the card model. Apple built the drivers for the PC 5220 card into 10.4.

  6. pianoman Avatar
    pianoman

    Dell is not the only manufacturer of Intel-based laptops.

  7. Pete Avatar

    IBM is the way to go for rock solid laptops. A bit more pricy, but well worth the money. I work in IT and have seen lots of different laptops over the years and none of them come close to IBM.

  8. Amy Alkon Avatar

    I’ve had Macs since 1983, and my first Mac is still working — a friend has it (a Classic, I believe) in Rome, and uses it as a glorified typewriter. Never had a set of directions — never needed one — it was completely intuitive to operate. A far cry from the PCs of a woman I used to be a writing partner of. What hell!
    These days, I have an iBook, which is incomparable for ease of connection to Wifi standards across the world, and the new 20-inch iMac G5, both of which are pure joy to use. The same goes for my iPod and my Shuffle.
    Highly recommended. And get Applecare. Well worth it. And they’re nice when you call.

  9. Amy Alkon Avatar

    PS I also have an HP 450-ci portable printer, which I like. I must say, however, calling HP Care (or whatever they call it) is a trip through hell. Even when HP Corporate got involved. My advice: If you have it, and you get a guy named Walter (“Get sarcastic and I’ll be forced to hang up!”) on the line, hang up. Your health is too important.
    PPS The Canon portable printer is its competitor, or was, when I bought it. Substantial cost for ink — I believe it was something like $1 per page (at 50 dollars per cartridge, which only prints about 50 pages, I read somewhere).

  10. Brian Avatar

    I’m typing right now on my Dell Inspiron 8600. haven’t had a problem (yet) and honestly it’s one of the best laptops I’ve bought.
    I’ve contemplated buying a Powerbook, but since it’s almost twice the price; I figured I was better off buying the Dell and backing up my stuff weekly.

  11. Mike G Avatar

    Why are you still dealing with peons?
    The secret of dealing with corporate America is to escalate your problem above the guy who’s responsible for the $2 they’d have to spend to make you happy, and start being a pain in the ass to someone so big they just want you to go the fuck away at any price. And there’s nobody better for that than the CEO.
    Ship your computer back directly to Michael Dell, together with a complete printout of all the posts about Dell on this site. Once they stop sniffing it as a possible bomb, they’ll jump hoops to get you the best-made Dell laptop that ever rolled off the line.
    Then buy a Powerbook anyway, like you should have done in the first place. Jeez, how the hell did you think Dell got to be so big except by cutting corners everywhere, making things as cheaply as possible and trying to avoid ever ever ever giving a refund? That’s like blaming your pusher because, what do you know, crack makes me want more crack!

  12. daudder Avatar
    daudder

    My new Dell 8600 Inspiron’s hard drive went kaput 4 months ago. Dell service was quick, and shipped a replacement hard drive in 24 hours (17 actually as I got it the next morning). While replacing and restoring data and settings was pain (Dell provided direct to phone numbers to help with install and other issues), I was impressed with the speed and help provided by the service.
    Now, after spending $3000 I was disappointed that the hard drive failed, I have to admit that Dell has provided the service and support after the fact.
    Sounds like you have got a lemon, and are now in service and support hell…not fun. Life will get better.

  13. daudder Avatar
    daudder

    Jeff, do you know that the filter you have on your commenst page will not allow you to use the word:
    “s p e c i a l i s t”
    because it contains the word:
    “c i a l i s?”
    weird

  14. eddy Avatar

    Pete, you’re kidding about IBM laptops, right? On the campus at which I work, all the full-time faculty get IBM laptops…and they’re junk. Absolute junk. Same goes for the IBM desktops on our campus. My old Packard Bell Pentium I works more efficiently than our P4 IBMs.
    And I’ll say it again…Dell is good. I’m typing on a Dell laptop right now. And I’m making printouts and burning DVDs on my Dell desktop in the other room. Proper maintenance is important for any computer…and so many computer users won’t even bother to defrag their HD. When their computer stops running properly, they instantly think it’s a piece of junk.

  15. Barry Avatar

    this argument could go on endlessly, just as “Ford sucks, buy Honda” or something of that sort. There are enough people in the world that someone is bound to have a bad experience with every company known to man.
    I’ve never had a problem with a Dell, had tons of problems with IBMs, and have not been rich enough for a Mac. Obviously, there are others with converse situations.
    I wouldn’t blanket a whole company with “don’t buy” status unless you can speak for every single one of their customers (which you can’t).
    If it makes you feel better to get your revenge by buying an iBook, go for it. I really don’t think Dell is going to miss your business.

  16. Brian Avatar

    > Now, after spending $3000 I was disappointed that the hard drive failed, I have to admit that Dell has provided the service and support after the fact.
    Ouchie…my 8600 was under a grand. Only feature I didn’t get was the extended warranty and the 2GB of RAM.

  17. Britt Blaser Avatar

    Jeff,
    David Pogue has a nice review of Verizon’s service at http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/23/technology/circuits/23pogue.html?pagewanted=print
    Pogue’s a Machead, so he deals with that side of it also, and points to the evdoinfo link provided by Rich, above.
    Some Verizon cards require a little re-configuring, unfortunately. The directions at the evdoinfo site are a little complicated. I’d be happy to help you with that, though Donovan could also, and he’s an EVDO user, on a 17″ PowerBook.

  18. james Avatar

    quote”I’m typing right now on my Dell Inspiron 8600. haven’t had a problem (yet) and honestly it’s one of the best laptops I’ve bought.
    I’ve contemplated buying a Powerbook, but since it’s almost twice the price;”
    Yer kiddin , right?
    The 14 ” iBook is comparable in all ways except the 14″ vs 15″ screen. Same price, not twice as much. Apple ‘books are very price competitive.

  19. Johnny Lipon Avatar
    Johnny Lipon

    As this saga continues I can’t get over the arrogance of people who tell you that they have a Dell and it works fine.
    One guy implies that you haven’t maintained it properly. Apparently, the fact that it’s brand new sailed right over his head.

  20. Bob G. Avatar

    Words that come to mind – over-reaction, hysteria, too much time on your hands

  21. Anna Haynes Avatar
    Anna Haynes

    “I can’t get over the arrogance of people who tell you that they have a Dell and it works fine.”
    I wonder how many of them work for Dell. Without a disclosure field in Jeff’s comment form (or any other blogging tool’s comment form, dammit), even the honest ones could be out here manipulating us.

  22. chuckR Avatar

    Looking thru all the responses in all Jeff’s posts on Dell Hell what emerges is that for any brand at least some of their products suck some of the time. Back in the computer pre-Cambrian era – 15 years ago – I used to sell unix workstations along with engineering software. For the price of a new car, I could sell you a mean machine with the compute power of PDA and a fraction the disk storage of an ipod mini. One thing the vendors did right though – most had a 24-48 hour burn in period. Remarkably, they tried to fail the computer BEFORE it got in the hands of a consumer. With today’s price pressures, I don’t know if anybody is going to slow their product flow by two days and add the cost of burning in. So buy whatever you want, but buy with a no questions asked return policy – Dell’s is 30 days I think. Then spend the first few days beating on the thing unmercifully. Jeff apparently has one or more programs that can peg a Wintel CPU – maybe he’ll bundle them for resale…. And I think you can find some test programs on the net for I/O, graphics, etc. Sorry that you have to do your own final production step, but I’m sure the vendors would include it if people were willing to pay thousands instead of hundreds of dollars for their computers. And I agree with Jeff that on-site service is oversold. On a new system, one shot and it goes back. Last service extension I bought, comPUSa charged $170 for a ‘service’ contract that apparently consisted of loading the system restore disk.