Dell hell, continued

Dell hell, continued

: As I sent my machine to Dell in the Airborne ambulance, I took the hard drive out at Dell’s demand (what if it’s the hard drive or the registry that’s broken? they will make me spend hours on the phone to diagnose that, said the man). I put it in my son’s Dell, which is exactly the same: an Inspiron 600m. Ah, but I saw that it was not exactly the same, not at all: When the machine started up, my laptop’s brain in my son’s laptop’s body started recognizing no end of new and strange hardware. And that’s to say that there is no consistency at all in the Dell product. Tom Friedman wrote about that, admiringly, in his World is Flat book: In their just-in-time gusto, they grab a part from this supplier or that supplier and slap them in there. And so there is no consistency to the product: The 600m I bought and was satisifed with two months ago is not one bit like the 600m I bought next. It’s as if I went to Burger King and they substituted pork for beef because it was cheaper today.

But you know what, that’s Dell’s problem, really: All I should care about is having a computer that works. How it works and how it’s made is their problem if I have a warranty, right?

But that’s what bothers me most: I bought that warranty, the top-of-the-line, most expensive warranty that warrants to send someone to my home to repair my machine.

Except that’s a big fat Dell lie. The person they would send to my home would not have the parts (or, according to some of my commenters, the expertise, training, and intelligence) to repair that machine.

Smells like fraud to me.

Smells like a class-action suit to some of my commenters and emailers.

Calling Mr. Spitzer. Calling Mr. Spitzer.

Dell lies. Dell sucks.

19 responses to “Dell hell, continued”

  1. Easycure Avatar

    I have a Dell now and bought a second one yesterday for the wife. I bought no warranty – I’ll fix it myself if it doesn’t work correctly.
    Call me crazy.

  2. Deirdre' Straughan Avatar

    I bought a 3-year warranty on my Dimension 8200. It blew up a couple of weeks ago. I did a bunch of testing on the phone with them (removing cards, swapping around the RAM, substituting a new video card that they sent me). Then they started sending guys to my house – not cheap for them, we live 50 km from the nearest large city. After at least 3 personal visits, they have decided to replace the entire machine. Since they no longer make the 8200, the new one will be a Dimension 8400, apparently better in every way than the old one. All this is covered by the warranty (which expires in August).
    I’m very happy with Dell.

  3. Tony Avatar

    It doesn’t sound like they promise to send someone to repair it at home no matter what. It sounds like after a phone diagnosis, they’d send someone out if they feel that an in-home visit will fix the problem: “if necessary.” Your computer’s problem didn’t seem to fit the requirements.

  4. chuckR Avatar

    I don’t know about their laptops, but I was told a few years ago that if you wanted a fixed configuration desktop, you bought an Optiplex – a corporate environment system. I don’t know if thats still true because I don’t buy systems by the boatload. If you are doing IT, you want systems that you can replicate from a single one you configure. And the Optiplexes do cost a little more than standard desktops with similar features – the two I have bought were very reliable.
    Looks like the notebook equivalent for standard components in similar systems at Dell would be the Latitude rather than the Inspiron.

  5. eddy Avatar

    “I put it in my son’s Dell, which is exactly the same: an Inspiron 600m. Ah, but I saw that it was not exactly the same, not at all: When the machine started up, my laptop’s brain in my son’s laptop’s body started recognizing no end of new and strange hardware. And that’s to say that there is no consistency at all in the Dell product.”
    Er, just because it’s the same model doesn’t necessarily mean that all the components are the same. There could have been a different network card, different video card, different hardware of all sorts. It’s like a car. If I buy, say, a Saturn VUE…just because mine has a sunroof, AC, and power windows, should I expect EVERY Saturn VUE to have those exact same features? And if they don’t, should I accuse Saturn of being inconsistent with their construction of the VUE?
    I’m just seeing a distinct lack of computer knowledge here, not to mention common sense. Again, my Dell computers work beautifully and have done so for the past five and two years, respectively.

  6. JohnO Avatar

    If you bought say, a 40G hard drive and they gave you a 40G hard drive, then you have nothing to complain about. If you ordered an Iomega and they put in a Seagate, that’s a different problem.
    I bought a Dell about 4 years ago and it worked great. However, once they moved the tech support to New Delhi and it became very difficult to communicate with them, I decided to go with Alienware for my new computer (now one year old). Other then Microsoft’s ServiceCrap 2 screwing with my system, everything’s been great.

  7. Bryan William Jones Avatar

    Dude, get a Mac. Seriously though, one of the nice things about Apple that you have always been able to rely upon has been the consistency of their product from one machine to another.

  8. josh Avatar

    I bought a Dell about a year and a half ago, and I’ve had nothing but good service from them. Previously, the thing went all wonky and refused to turn on. I called the support line, and a nice Indian man guided me through disassembling my computer, which did not help. I bought the 4-year home service plan, so the next step was to have a guy come to my house and replace the entire motherboard and processor. It worked. This whole process took about 4 days.
    The next time it broke down, the screen would blank out intermittently. Again, short conversation with the support guy, this time I was forwarded to the dispatcher/manager, and the home service guy showed up 2 days later. This time he had been given the wrong parts, but he called the dispatcher, got the parts shipped overnight, showed up the next day and replaced the motherboard, monitor card, and LCD screen. Fixed.
    Overall, two great experiences with the home service support. Is Dell just schizophrenic, do I have a different plan, or what?
    Josh

  9. Angelos Avatar
    Angelos

    Yes, Mac OSX is consistently buggy, quirky, useless, and poorly-designed.
    But oooooh, look at the pretty dock. That’ll distract you from the crashes and OS reinstalls. Then you can rebuild your pretty dock. Until the next reinstall.
    And don’t forget to Rebuild Disk Permissions every three days. Because duuuuuuh, your actual use of the computer breaks it!
    Unfortunately, all my clients now use Quark 6 and/or Adobe CS Suite, so I can’t use my 9.1 machine anymore.
    See Mac zealots? This isn’t about Mac vs. Windows. This is about poor hardware, and the poor subsequent service.
    I can’t wait until the Mintels come out. Oh, the joy those “debates” will produce…

  10. eddy Avatar

    “But oooooh, look at the pretty dock. That’ll distract you from the crashes and OS reinstalls. Then you can rebuild your pretty dock. Until the next reinstall.”
    Hey, if people want a ‘pretty dock’ so badly, but don’t want to deal with a trappings of a sub-standard, overpriced system that’s more about being eye candy then efficient, tell them to use Stardock. :)

  11. Rich Avatar

    Angelos,
    Spoken like someone who hasn’t used OS X that much. Also, you can have OS X automatically repair (not rebuild) permissions on your Mac, along with the daily maintenance scripts that OS X runs overnight (your machine has to be on overnight for OS X to run them though.) See here for a walkthrough on how to do this: http://www.hmug.org/HowTos/RepairPermissions.html

  12. Jim S Avatar

    I say the same thing to Dell that I say to pretty much every tech support phone line “Give me Tier 2 support.”. My first job with PCs had me working with the original IBM PCs. By the time I actually call any company I’ve pretty much eliminated anything that a first level tech support person has stored in their scripts. Dell hasn’t been too bad but it’s been a long time since I needed to speak with them. The last time I did the guy had a Bombay Welsh accent a knife wouldn’t cut through because it would take a chain saw. While we talked past one another I figured out the problem myself.

  13. Pelle Braendgaard Avatar

    See what else is inside your 600M:
    http://c0x2.de/lol/lol.html
    This is scary stuff.
    Pelle

  14. pst314 Avatar

    Dell tech support has always been able to solve the problem. My main complaints have revolved around: (1) Moving level 1 support to India has resulted in communication difficulties, somewhat less technical knowledge. (2) Sales reps who keep trying to take and order while you’re still trying to get them to answer technical questions. Ignoring what I say to you is a good way to piss me off. If you don’t know the answer then transfer me to someone who does. (3) When website bugs make your account unavailable, there is nobody to talk to; just online help forms, and as a result it takes days to resolve a simple problem.

  15. owen Muir Avatar
    owen Muir

    i had serious problems with my powerbook recently, 2 trips to applecare repair and it still didn’t work. apple’s response? give me a top of the line new powerbook complete with memory upgrade cause i couldn’t use the old expanded memory from my old powerbook. new with OSX tiger installed, and one phone call to help with set up. apple care=you get what you pay for.

  16. Peter Avatar

    Jeff, you deserve Dell-service. Just for a) buying one and b) faking a techsense (and for thinking Adam Curry is a visionary, in stead of a cheap hot air container).
    XP registers all sorts of serialnumbers for anti-piracy purposes. If you put your installation of XP (= the hard drive of your PC) straight into another machine, it will get confused, even if you have identical components from the same manufacturers.
    Not too difficult for you, I trust?

  17. Jason Avatar

    All of this talk about how you’ve had good experiences with Dell’s service just outlines the fact that they use low grade parts in their systems. The fact that you even have to call them within the first 2 years of owning the computer means SOMETHING’s WRONG.
    I built and serviced pc’s for 7 years before getting my current job in an it department and I saw so many dell/gateway/hp garbageboxes that I would never consider even giving any of those companies money for a system ever again, especially when I can build my own for often the same or less with higher quality componentry.

  18. Sarah Bratanek Avatar
    Sarah Bratanek

    Thank you for writing this! Almost the exact same thing happened to me: Just before I moved abroad I bought a $3000 laptop and top of the line warrenty as well. Within one week (I was in Japan at this point) it broke down and after hours and hours and literally dozens of phonecalls that got nowhere, I shipped my laptop back to Canada at my own expense and had to wait until I returned a year later to use my laptop. When I received it, it was still broken and had to be sent back again. I was sure my laptop was a lemon and asked that it be replaced (this is ONE YEAR after I spent three THOUSAND dollars on it) but they refused. Dell has the worst customer service you can imagine: they’re frauds, they’re liars, and I would pay out of my own pocket to ensure that no one ever bought a dell again.
    Thank you so much for making your struggle public. Only someone who has dealt with Dell can truly understand the hell you’re in. I’m with you.

  19. Kurt Avatar

    I don’t know, what is a Dell!