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No cigar
: I was going to write a final post for the night congratulating the victors. But considering all the hemming and hawing on the networks, it’s still a bit too soon to do that. I’ll bet I’ll be posting it in the morning. But right now, I’m going to call it a night (or part thereof).
Bush won the popular vote, but this doesn’t count anymore…. Ohio at this point is 125,000 votes more for Bush, with the Secretary of State claiming on NBC that there are about 140,000 provisional ballots.
Time to fold up the tent, because you would be begging Bush to do it if the situation was reversed.
We are at war, and the only battle Kerry and Edwards will want to fight for is over votes in Ohio…
God Bless
Contrary to conventional wisdom, the turnout was enormous and Bush took the popular vote; not only that, but the percentage of young voters didn’t change a bit.
I wonder what the African-American vote will be this time around as the gay marriage issue was high up on the charts and on 11(?) ballots today.
Wouldn’t be surprised if that contributed to Bush’s win by a fair amount.
Poor fat Moore.
That’s a bit of an unfair criticism of Kerry. I would have no expectation of Bush conceding under similar circumstances. Although I wanted to have a winner tonight, I’m willing to have an open mind about Kerry-Edwards. I have faith that they’ll walk the fine line between having every vote counted and trying to win at every cost. There are still 250,000 votes that Republicans challenged at the polls to deal with.
For the good of the country I think we need to change the electoral college system though. This is not the best way to elect a president–with the possibility of two elections in a row won by minority presidents.
Close to 6 am on the East Coast, and here comes Andrew Card declaring they won, the crowd cheering, holding up signs. Card declares victory.
The tone of this campaign, the spin goes on. Try respecting the people who voted, and counting those votes?
I am not thinking this hammer handed approach is going to win support from the opposition – so I see once again this bunch doesn’t care about support.
I just blogged about this at http://www.penguinsix.com/
Ok, in 2000 in Ohio, there were approximately 125,491 votes added between November’s press stories and December’s official report to the Federal Election Commission.
The votes went like this
Bush 2,294,167—>2,351,209 + 57,042 45.5%
Gore 2,117,741—>2,186,190 + 68,449 54.5%
Now, if things track along these lines, and there are 250,000 Provisionals and Absentee ballots outstanding, you would see tonights results increase as such.
Bush + 113,750
Kerry + 136,250
When factored into Bush’s existing 144,000 vote lead, you see a change of only about 23,000. Bush still wins with over 120,000 votes….
Still looking for more accurate numbers, but it doesn’t look good for Kerry…
Ruth,
You need to come to terms with the fact that your man got whooped. BIG TIME!
The Democrats nominated a man who is even more corrupt than Richard Nixon (but LESS statesman like). You should be thankful for your party and your country that he lost. We all dodged a bullet. THANK GOD!
I hope and pray after yet another electoral defeat that the Democrats will do some soul searching. Please, please, please do not make the mistake of nominating a terrible man like John Kerry again. And please abandon the Gramscian Marxist agenda that has absolutely corrupted the Democratic party:
http://www.policyreview.org/dec00/Fonte.html
Tom-
the popular vote has never counted when electing a President. If people had understood and accepted that better in 2000, then perhaps we wouldn’t have as much divisiveness today.
Regards,
Some advice for my Democratic friends. Reform your primary rules so that a terribly flawed man like Kerry cannot be selected by the party power brokers and emerge from the primaries untested. If Dick Gephardt or Joe Lieberman had been the nominee, you might be celebrating a victory today. A more open primary process might have produced a viable nominee.
And get rid of Terri McAuliffe. Lock Ted Kennedy in the basement. Stop taking money from filth like George Soros. Loosen that embrace of Michael Moore. Give up the UN love affair. Re-embrace Clintonian, DLC centrist policies. Stop trying to raise taxes. Stop using the judicial branch to impose your agenda on the country when you can’t get your policies passed in the Congress and signed by the President the way the Constitution was intended.
Thanks HA for illustrating what it’s like to be a poor winner. Just don’t get it, do you.