Elevators go up and down

Elevators go up and down

: Glenn Reynolds addresses the question of whether blogs are elevating the political debate.

I hesitate to get into this because I haven’t enjoyed tangling with Glenn lately, since I sensed that he’d developed an obsession with Swifties and Cambodia and I’ll quickly concede that I’d developed my equivalent obsession with campaign mud, decrying the Swifties and Mooreites, the supposed scandals about Kerry’s and Bush’s honorable service. I saw a real change in the character of his blog; I said so; he took issue, as well he should; and others had complaints, in turn, about my blog. It felt like two buddies drifting farther apart down the bar. I started reading a lot into a lack of Instalinks and was, frankly, relieved when I got one earlier this week — not for the traffic, but for the communication. Christ, I was getting ready to send him flowers and a box of chocolates.

But this is what happens in a personal medium. It gets personal.

And all that is necessary background to Glenn’s post today:

IS THE BLOGOSPHERE ELEVATING THE POLITICAL DEBATE? I just had an interesting conversation with a journalist who’s writing on that question, and who pretty clearly seems to feel that the answer is “no.”

If “elevating the debate” means a sort of good-government, League-of-Women-Voters focus on where candidates stand on health care, etc., that’s mostly true, I suppose. But I think it misconceives what blogs are about. There certainly are bloggers posting on healthcare and other issues — see, for example, Jeff Jarvis’s Issues 2004 posts and this post by Ann Althouse on medical malpractice — but the political blogosphere is to a large degree about media criticism. If the Big Media were talking more about issues, and less — to pick RatherGate as the example which I think inspired this conversation — about Bush’s National Guard service, probably bloggers would be talking about issues more, too.

Actually, I would have thought that Glenn would have said the opposite. His complaint was that Big Media were not talking about Swifties and Kerry and Cambodia. Now he complains that they were talking about Bush and the National Guard. My complaint was the Big Media — and bloggers — were not talking about issues but were, instead, talking about both Bush and the National Guard and Kerry and the Swifties and Cambodia.

That is precisely why I started posting about issues, because I decided I should put my bandwidth where my mouth is.

I completely agree that blogs are, to a large degree, about media — because they are media. But in fact, if all blogs do is criticize media, then that’s damned limiting. I’d hate to see blogs get too inside baseball (on steroids).

If blogs are media, then they can and should talk about anything media talks about, including issues that matter to our lives and our future (with, I might add, a helluva lot more relevance and passion than any League of Women Voters).

Glenn continues:

Of course, what’s striking about RatherGate is the absolutely incredible degree of ineptitude, arrogance, and outright political manipulativeness that it has revealed. In light of that, I can understand why members of the media would rather talk about other things.

Cheap shot and not really right. Media’s going mad talking about Rathergate; I’ve had tons of media calls and so have many other bloggers. And on those appearances, I — as both Media Man and Blog Boy — have been attacking the ineptitute, arrogance, and political mucking of Rather et al — and I’ve not been alone among media men. Glenn goes on:

But, all blogger triumphalism aside, the media criticism matters. And it matters because Big Media are still the main way that our society learns about what’s happening, and talks about it. A serious breakdown there, which seems undeniably present today, is very important. In many ways, as I’ve said before, it’s more important than how the election turns out.

I agree with most of that (I do not think that media matters more than terrorism, homeland security, health care, education, and such). But cut away the brush and vines and that’s a fine tree there. If he’d ended there, we’d stand in agreement. But the snark gun fires once more:

Meanwhile, I don’t recall much tut-tutting about bloggers focusing on Trent Lott’s racial remarks, instead of his position on national health insurance. Were we elevating the tone then, but not now?

Cheap rhetorical trick. Lott’s statement was a present-tense story and it wasn’t in the midst of a presidential campaign and it didn’t blot out other discussion.

Bottom lines: Big Media and bloggers can and should talk about more than media because all media and no issues makes Jack a dull boy.

Media’s important. But so are homeland security, Iraq, health insurance, education, energy, and all the other issues that affect our lives and about which we have opinions and about which we — bloggers as well as Big Media — should be debating. We can talk about all this at once. Pixels are cheap.

As I have said here often lately, I had hoped that blogs would push Big Media to do better on the issues that matter to this nation and its future, not just about mud from the past. That’s how I hoped blogs would, indeed, have helped elevate the political debate.

I believe blogs can do both. Blogs can criticize and fact-check and dog — and, here’s the point — improve Big Media. Blogs can also debate and inform and push and prod both media and politicians on issues that matter to us. I wouldn’t want to limit them.

Blogs can do all that — and make pajama jokes, too.

: And let me add this… The reason that I went ahead and posted this is because if we in blogs criticize Big Media, we also should be prepared to examine ourselves. So I think it’s good that Glenn posted what he did; he tries to boil us down (ouch) to our essence. And I think it’s best if we then continue to discuss that. We’re a new medium. We’re figuring out what the hell we are. So long as we don’t get caught in (a) navel gazing or (b) triumphalism or (c) boring self-indulgent droning (each a disease of Big Journalism, Lord knows), then the discussion is good. So discuss….

: UPDATE: Patterico says I missed the point of present-tense vs. past-tense. I didn’t. But I did shorthand what I said too much so here’s his post and see my repy.

Also see my earlier post arguing that blogs should be judged on how we try to affect the coverage and conduct of this election.

: Think of the next 11 weeks until the election as a challenge: as a test of weblogs’ real value:

When we wake up after the election, will we be able to point to the ways and posts in which this new medium contributed, or at least tried to contribute, to improving the coverage of the campaign and the policies of the candidates and the wisdom of the electorate? Will we have made a difference at all? Or will we have made it worse?

Did we push the coverage and the candidates in ways that mattered? Or did we wallow in mud?

Now is our opportunity to show what we can do. So what can we do?

10 responses to “Elevators go up and down”

  1. Ernest Miller Avatar

    As a blogger who has spent the last week focusing on media criticism, I agree.
    Generally, my blog is about technology and law issues. I write a lot about new media, but I write a lot more about copyright law. For example, I’ve written more than 100 posts on the Inducing Infringement of Copyrights Act of 2004, which is being fast tracked through Congress and will radically change copyright law in many ways.
    If you don’t think the INDUCE Act is an important issue, then you probably don’t think TiVo, the VCR, or iPod are important either.
    I’ve addressed the INDUCE Act from dozens of different angles, providing more indepth coverage than any other media outlet and arguably more coverage than all the big media outlets combined.
    There are many other blogs doing similar things on other issues. So, yes, I know that blogs are elevating some of the discussions, for anyone who is paying attention.
    I’ll keep pushing the issues I’m familiar with and interested in. Hopefully big media will eventually pay attention.

  2. MWB Avatar

    When they sent the Hubble space telescope up with a faulty lens (media), they had to focus on fixing the lens before they could focus on taking pretty (and informative) pictures of distant galaxies (the real issues). Media distortion is the biggest story of this election season and it’s more important, in a particular way, than health care, overtime pay, or even terrorism right now. Why? Because it is the vehicle by which citizens are informed to make decisions about all those other “real” issues. In stopping Dan Rather and company from slinging some forged mud at George Bush, the blogosphere demonstrated its value for sharpening and clarifying focus on other issues. That’s a good thing, not to be regretted.

  3. brandon davis Avatar

    Jeff? –
    I came across you during all the recent brouhaha …and (like Suz’ at Cut On the Bias, who I stumbled across during the roll into Baghdad), I’ve “stayed” (and will stay) …due to lines like this “Christ, I was getting ready to send him flowers and a box of chocolates“.
    Our politics differ, but good writing is good reading …and at least you don’t make me roll my eyes and shake my head in bemused disbelief.
    Kudos.

  4. Ruth Avatar

    This balancing out of blog on blog seems to be a pretty good substitution for editorial oversight. There seems to be (IMHO) a tendency to get carried away by some blogs, and I am glad to find one like Jeff’s where he has some internal controls. In a time when there seems to be increasing tendency toward the extremes, it’s good to see an informed writer who can also express individual opinions.
    From today’s Washington Post (Hoagland):
    These key differences are beginning to emerge clearly from an erratic, inconclusive campaign that has been fogged in by egregious personal bitterness and overwhelming media focus on two sideshows: controversy over service records from the Vietnam era and the periodic floundering of Kerry’s campaign apparatus. While most polls portray Bush as having the upper hand on national security, they also show him still vulnerable to events and to Kerry’s sharpening attacks on Iraq.
    Wish there were only two ‘sideshows’.

  5. Karl Avatar

    I can’t comment on media matters in the way I’d like to on my weblog, it would probably catch the eye of my employeer one way or another. But I am very happy to see you fighting to raise the bar.

  6. Andrew Tyndall Avatar

    “If the Big Media were talking more about issues, and less — to pick RatherGate as the example which I think inspired this conversation — about Bush’s National Guard service, probably bloggers would be talking about issues more, too.”
    As big a story as the 60 Minutes memos are in media circles and the blogosphere, it is flat out untrue that it has dominated campaign coverage in the aforesaid Big Media.
    Last week on the three networks’ nightly newscasts combined (including CBS, which spent extended time to defending its own reporting), the memos accounted for less than one quarter of all Campaign 2004 coverage (14 minutes out of 61). The previous week–when the story broke–it was a similar small proportion (17 minutes out of 68). Our tracking data on campaign coverage is archived at http://www.tyndallreport.com/campaign.html.

  7. Brian Baute Avatar

    It’ll be interesting to see the effect blogging has on the 2008 election moreso than its effect on this one. Just like the internet was a relative bit player in 2000, jumping and screaming “Look at me! Look at me!” in order to get noticed (but not really having a significant impact), so blogging is now. And as largely a reaction against Big Media, many blogs are a bit obsessed with Big Media (“If the Big Media were talking more about issues, and less…about Bush’s National Guard service, probably bloggers would be talking about issues more, too”). Does the blogosphere require Big Media to take the lead on issues? Is the blogosphere merely a reactionary environment? Presently, perhaps (theoblogians in the emerging church are wrestling with the same issues as they emerge from being merely a reaction against evangelicalism and fundamentalism). But when the 2008 cycle arrives I think blogs (and other personal journalism that may arrive by that time) will do much more to drive the discussion rather than maintaining its current back seat status.

  8. old maltese Avatar
    old maltese

    ‘Media’s going mad talking about Rathergate.’
    *Now* they are (and I’m really amazed that they are), but it’s been 15 days since the fateful 60 Minutes program.
    What were they doing the first day, the second day …
    As we know, most of the news was made within 12 hours, and we know by whom.
    And the big media could have done it just as well, just as soon, but they didn’t.

  9. Tom Grey Avatar

    http://www.venturpreneur.com/weblogs/archives/000676.html
    http://althouse.blogspot.com/2004/09/moral-cretins-and-self-important.html
    See Ann & Gordon about Rather and Malkin.
    Kerry’s Lie(s) about Vietnam (Christmas in Cambodia; war crimes as US policy) have 3 main effects:
    1) sinking Kerry in Nov.,
    2) demonstrating the PC Leftist bias of the Press,
    3) opening to question a pillar of PC thought — use of American military to fight evil is bad; for PC folk, peace (and genocide) is better than fighting evil when such a war means killing, dying, and even killing innocents.
    (see http://tomgrey.motime.com/1093629194#330293)
    RatherGate is a huge indictment of the Leftist bias in the Press, and many elites (especially socialistic professors). PowerLine is attacking against fairly unquestioned acceptance, among the PC folk (sheeple?), of factual lies being used to support their “greater truth”. The PC folk are convinced Bush is bad. And this subjective judgment has been elevated to the pinnacle of Truth so that actual forged lies are accepted to support this pseudo-religious Truth.
    M. Malkin is challenging the PC Truth that internment was terrible, without question. Even Powerline, in liking the book, doesn’t agree with MM that internment was the best response — but DOES push, strongly, at questioning the internment.
    MM’s facts, of which she cites many, won’t really revise the conclusion that internment was wrong. But her book does raise the question — and all such PC “unquestioned truths” need to be revisited.
    And note much of PC logic: if the good points and bad points of a policy add up to an overall bad policy according to some cultural consensus, anybody who disagrees has, ipso facto “a manufactured, unreasoned justification”.
    THAT is terrible PC logic, and I wish Michelle Malkin as much red carpet treatment as she can get for raising real questions about a prior policy, one which seems increasingly relevant in protecting Americans from suicidal murderers.
    If some group of Islamofascists get to America thru the porous Mexican border (another of MM’s issues), and hold hostage a school in America, and some hundreds of people and children then die — are PC folk going to admit that PC policies were worse than useless in stopping this, but MM’s might have?
    I suspect that Powerline folks think Michelle has some important points to think about. I do.

  10. The Lonewacko Blog Avatar

    If some group of Islamofascists get to America thru the porous Mexican border (another of MM’s issues), and hold hostage a school in America, and some hundreds of people and children then die — are PC folk going to admit that PC policies were worse than useless in stopping this, but MM’s might have?
    If those Islamofascists come here – or if they haven’t already come over – it will have been because of Bush’s policies as well as those of the “PC folk.”
    See the link-laden post Illegal aliens from terrorist states released into U.S. Strangely enough, I don’t see those who obsess about Rathergate paying any heed to matters like this.
    Summary for those who don’t like links: since 2000, DHS has detained more than 4000 people from terrorist-sponsoring nations, and “an unknown number” were released back into the United States.
    In an interview, our “border czar” basically admitted he wasn’t doing his job.
    Much more at that link and the ones it leads to.