Free debate

Free debate

: After Lawrence Lessig put his new book up for free under the Creative Commons license, Akma came up with the great idea to have folks volunteer to read it as a permitted derivative work.

As I was reading the book via PDF on the flight yesterday, I got another idea for a derivative work:

Take a book and annotate it with contrary evidence and arguments and questions.

Call it the fisking edition.

Mind you, I’m not saying that because I’m going after Lessig or have any intention of doing that edition — he’s too damned smart and too good at arguing his ideas and, as I’ve said before, I’m too smart to find myself on the losing end of a debate with him even if I do disagree with him. Fisking is just an easy way to describe what I mean.

Or maybe I should call it the Talmudic editions.

I’d love to see someone who does know what he or she is talking about dive into the book and give me either more facts to help me make up my mind or more facts to help me make my arguments. I’d love to hear two sides.

I’d love to see Tim Blair create the annotated edition of any Michael Moore book. Or Matthew Yglesias create a civilized response to the rantings of Ann Coulter. Those would be pure entertainment. I wouldn’t mind taking on the blatherings of Republic.com. What books would you take on?

And once we take on these books, the authors can create their next derivative works, replying. And, I know, I’m creating a ringing endorsement of Creative Commons with this. But wouldn’t it be great to take a book and break it open at the spine for some back-and-forth?

Why not turn a book into a conversation?

: UPDATE: Inspired by this post and Ernie Miller‘s, Aaron Swartz has put the entire book into a wiki. Also way cool.

My suggestion was that people annotate the book.

A wiki also allows people to edit the book. Hmmmm. Not sure what Lessig would think of that. Not sure what I would think if I could no longer tell what came from him and what came from his debaters.

10 responses to “Free debate”

  1. MattS Avatar

    Wikifying books?

  2. ken Avatar

    I’d take on the Gospels.
    (sorry, couldn’t help myself)

  3. Arnold Williams Avatar

    You’re right. I’d be really interested in purchasing an annotated edition by someone who would note contrary facts and arguments in outline, just so long as they didn’t think they were writing something other than a 1 paragraph footnote.
    And I’d pay a premium for it.
    Where are publishers when really good ideas come up?

  4. Charlie (Colorado) Avatar
    Charlie (Colorado)

    Jeff, have you read any of Ted Nelson’s work? This is pretty much exactly what he proposed in Xanadu, which is also where the idea of hypertext came from.

  5. Shelby Clark Avatar
    Shelby Clark

    This sounds like essentially an electronic version of the used book — the one where, eg, a student in the year before you has already noted some useful ideas and responses in the margin. You can also sometimes find them in used bookstores. Before the mid-19th century, as I recall, it was quite routine to annotate books, and the marginalia are often quite illuminating.
    The main difference is that this would make the comments available to all, not just the owner of that one copy. Neat idea!

  6. Billy Beck Avatar

    I never — never, ever — read a book without my favorite pen in hand. (Parker Vector rollerballs.) I annotate constantly, always, and I also build custom indexes in my books as I go along.
    Here is a recent blog item on this subject. It includes a photograph of a page from Chris Sciabarra’s really very good “Ayn Rand: The Russian Radical”. The notes in that photograph are not terribly deep. The thing that’s interesting about it is that my father and I obviously had a dispute. See: Dad noted in his customary red, and I in my usual black. The upshot is a three-way discussion between the two of us and the author.
    I have several books noted like this. Since my father’s death, they are priceless to me.

  7. Mike Liveright Avatar

    I have suggested that the book be published as an HTML set of files with anchors and links.
    My suggestion would be that the anchors be availalable for any blog, or other commentor to point to so that they could point to the section that they were commenting to and that the links point to a set of discussion forum topics that would allow people to add their discussions…
    I have not gotten a response, but he is busy, but since the book is available in other formats and there are programs that convert to html, it would only take someone{s} to covert it to html pages, to annotate it with anchors and links, to host the pages, to host a discussion group, etc.
    Note: I have not read the Creative Copyright license so I am not positive that this is permitted, but just guessing at this time.

  8. Ernest Miller Avatar

    Lessig’s book is now available for annotation here:
    http://blogspace.com/freeculture/Main_Page

  9. Richard Bennett Avatar

    I wore out a pencil reading “The Future of Ideas”, so I look forward to annotating “Freak Culture” with great relish.