9/11 terrorist kingpin Atta ‘trained in Iraq’

9/11 terrorist kingpin Atta ‘trained in Iraq’
: The Telegraph has a blockbuster story:

Iraq’s coalition government claims that it has uncovered documentary proof that Mohammed Atta, the al-Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks against the US, was trained in Baghdad by Abu Nidal, the notorious Palestinian terrorist.

Details of Atta’s visit to the Iraqi capital in the summer of 2001, just weeks before he launched the most devastating terrorist attack in US history, are contained in a top secret memo written to Saddam Hussein, the then Iraqi president, by Tahir Jalil Habbush al-Tikriti, the former head of the Iraqi Intelligence Service….

Although Iraqi officials refused to disclose how and where they had obtained the document, Dr Ayad Allawi, a member of Iraq’s ruling seven-man Presidential Committee, said the document was genuine.

“We are uncovering evidence all the time of Saddam’s involvement with al-Qaeda,” he said. “But this is the most compelling piece of evidence that we have found so far. It shows that not only did Saddam have contacts with al-Qaeda, he had contact with those responsible for the September 11 attacks.”

Hmmm. That would be a hat trick:

1. Evidence of Saddam’s relationship with al-Queda and September 11.

2. Evidence of Saddam’s support of weapons of mass destruction — Mohammad Atta being a one-man weapon of mass destruction.

3. Evidence of Saddam’s support of terrorism against the United States.

20 responses to “9/11 terrorist kingpin Atta ‘trained in Iraq’”

  1. Jediflyer Avatar

    No need to stretch the case with number 2, Mr Jarvis.
    It is better if we just stick with the common definitions. The case is strong enough if those things turn out to be true. We only weaken it by trying to cover all bases.

  2. Yehudit Avatar

    And the antiwar crowd with put their hands over their ears and chant “la la la la I can’t hear you ……”

  3. Apologist Avatar

    I’m with Jediflyer here. We don’t need to reach that far. I still believe those weapons are there (or in Syria) and that we’re going to find them ( or force the Syrians to give them up). The evidence before we went was simply too compelling and there wasn’t an intelligence service in the world that disagreed on the that point. We could be wrong, but it is highly unlikely. Have patience.

  4. lk Avatar

    White House has biggest bully pulpit ever. If this is true (I say odds are 1 in 10), they will trumpet it soon. Don’t hold your breath. Of course Cheney will say, out of the side of his mouth, “We cannot confirm or deny that”. Why couldn’t he have said that about WMD’s instead of misleading us? Now Strom’s love child, that’s hard news. Keep us informed of these developments. Of course if it was JFK’s love child, big media would bury it, right?

  5. MattJ Avatar

    Warmonger here. Warmonger from way back – was b!tching in 1998 that it was time to remove Saddam.
    That having been said… this document is a little too convenient, isn’t it?

  6. Jediflyer Avatar

    Yes it is, MattJ.
    I say we keep an eye on the story and make sure some other media outlets look into it, but in the meantime, lets not go touting it as justification. If it turns out to be false (I’d say 95% probability based on the fact it confrims both the uranium and Saddam-Al Qaeda link in one short memo) we will all look like arses. And big ones at that.

  7. jerry Avatar

    Hey, check the article all the way through,
    “The second part of the memo, which is headed “Niger Shipment”, contains a report about an unspecified shipment – believed to be uranium – that it says has been transported to Iraq via Libya and Syria.”

    Why didn’t you link to the article Jeff?

    Anyway, this is a memo tieing Al Qaeda and Saddam and verifying the Niger shipments.
    Color me suspicious….

  8. Mithras Avatar

    Let me be the first to say that this story is complete and utter bullshit. Kudos to those here who urge caution. I am looking forward to others on the rightward side of things jumping all over it.

  9. n/a Avatar

    There are demil contractors that seem to have a lot of faith that those weapons are there. They’re hiring people with chem agent demil experience to be forklift drivers at $6800US/month. Sounds to me like they’re stocking up on skill and experience in theatre so they can get to it quickly when/if it comes about.
    n/a

  10. Andy Freeman Avatar
    Andy Freeman

    > this document is a little too convenient, isn’t it?
    Too convenient is after the Dem’s have nominated Dean.
    It was one thing to knock Shriver off the bottom of the ticket – I wonder what excuse they’ll use to dump Dean?

  11. AnyonebutBush2004 Avatar
    AnyonebutBush2004

    Once again proof that if you offer a reward you can get completetly fabricated evidence to claim that reward.
    Oh look- the whole house of cards (9/11-Iraq connection) is falling apart:
    Czech government officials became much more skeptical that the meeting ever took place, particularly after it became clear that the initial intelligence report from the Czech domestic intelligence agency concerning the meeting had come from a single informant in the local Arab community.
    The information was treated skeptically by Czech intelligence experts because it had been provided only after the Sept. 11 attacks, after Mr. Atta’s picture had been broadcast on television and published in newspapers around the world, and after the Czech press reported that records showed that Mr. Atta had once traveled to Prague.
    Czech officials have said that border police records showed that Mr. Atta, who was then living in Hamburg, Germany, did come to Prague in June 2000, after obtaining a visa in late May. Shortly after arriving in Prague on that occasion, Mr. Atta flew to Newark.
    American records now indicate that Mr. Atta was in Virginia Beach, Va., in early April 2001, when he was supposedly in Prague to meet Mr. Ani.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/13/international/europe/13INQU.html

  12. P. Luto Avatar

    If you read the entire memo, you’ll see where Goofy got Saddam to eat Tinkerbell.

  13. capt joe Avatar

    Yeah, the nytimes reports the now de-fisked report that the FBI said Atta was in Virginaia renting a car. That report was found wrong went no one could find the car rental agreement and the fact that Atta did not have his license yet. The FBI was embarrashed already by that story. Not surprising it gets another round in certain media outlets.

  14. John Avatar

    Well, now they can just ask Saddam himself whether or now any of this is true. Makes things a whole lot simpler than 24 hours ago..

  15. Reid Avatar

    “Of course if it was JFK’s love child, big media would bury it, right?”
    Maybe they did.
    Any idiot would know that, fabricated evidence or not, the overwhelming likelihood is that Saddam colluded with AQ. Motive, means and opportunity – all there in spades. But, then, posters like those above are not just any idiots. They are idiots with a vested interest in denying the obvious.

  16. Peter Avatar

    Actually IF the memo is verified as true there is evidence of something else that could substitute for #2:
    ‘Evidence of Palestinian support of terrorism against the United States.’

  17. John Smith Avatar

    Apart from general caution, a specific health warning is due on the Atta piece.
    Which is authored by the same guy who wrote the the Telegraph’s big scoop on WMD intelligence a few days ago – which (so far as I can tell) was followed up by no other media outlet worldwide, and which the Telegraph itself has not followed up either.
    That piece was also based on – apparently strikingly newsworthy – material supplied by Iraqi sources. The fact it has been left to die doesn’t necessarily make it a pile of crap. But it doesn’t instil confidence, either.
    Perhaps the guy’s second effort will get better crits…

  18. OldBull Avatar

    I would love for this report to be accurate. That said, it is just too damn convenient! Too many loose ends neatly knotted in one short memo for me to swallow without further confirmation from other sources….

  19. ben Avatar

    Forget the memo. The other major story this day made the memo redundant. Which is kind of good, because if it is a fake, it could be damaging. Either way, Saddam is not coming back, and that is a good thing.

  20. HH Avatar

    Saddam being captured is TOO DAMN CONVENIENT too. Color me suspicious based on that alone.