UN.com

UN.com
: Hoder (who’s really pissed Iranian Internet censorship is not getting press attention even as the U.N. meets — with Iranian officials present — on the Internet) sends me to a blog of the U.N. meeting and there I find myself, in absentia:

US journalist, Jeff Jarvis is not here – but we thought we knew what question he’d be asking the US Ambassador (and head of the US delegation to the summit) at today’s press conference (and here) . So we asked it for him.

Daily Summit: “Ambassador Gross. There’s a lot of anger back in the US about what are seen as predatory attempts by the UN to wrest control of the internet from ICANN. Jeff Jarvis yesterday said the UN would have to prise the internet out of ‘dead American hands.’ How do you reassure the folks back home that the internet is safe?” (laughter)

Ambassador Gross: “The documents reflect very much where we are on that subject. Under the Secretary-General’s good offices, a study will be done to look at a variety of issues – but only a study will be done. That is the only action that is contemplated. There is really nothing other than that that will come out of these documents.

“Of course, the issue of how the internet will evolve is something that many people can play a role in today. I am always a little confused by statements [that suggest the US has exclusive control over the internet]. The way that it works now is that it is multi-stakeholder. There’s a direct role for governments through ICANN and other processes. There’s a direct role for individuals to play from around the world.

“In addition, it’s important to realise that ICANN is a very important organisation, but it is merely one part of a much larger puzzle. It does certain technical things, but there are many things it doesn’t do. It is a misperception on the part of many that ICANN is internet governance.”

Well, thank you, David Steven; yes, that is the question I would have asked. And isn’t that the perfect role for the reporter: He asks the questions we would ask if we were there.

8 responses to “UN.com”

  1. politicaobscura Avatar
    politicaobscura

    I would MUCH rather have had a pointed question about Iran and China and not about US interests. Will the UN DEMAND the rights of Iranians and Chinese to unfettered access to the Internet???
    Answer: No the UN doesn’t give a flying f*** about the rights of Iranians and Chinese. The UN cares about restraing the power of the US, period.

  2. Glenn Avatar

    I wasn’t impressed, nor were my concerns completely alleviated, by Ambassador Gross’ answer.

  3. shamonethem Avatar
    shamonethem

    F*** the UN – I’m prepared to hit the streets with anyone and everyone who wants to defend our rights – let it be known that bloggers and other activists will not lie down and get ass f****** by these fascist bastards!!!!

  4. Dustin Avatar

    dude, calm down
    how exactly would the un take control of the internet?
    we wouldnt obey them, trust me.
    further, it isnt as though it would be that difficult to establish a new netwrok if the un screw up this one
    i think the internet is out dated really. i would love to see more motivation for the internet2 system
    anyway, the internet IS america. its complete lack of control merely a reflection of its architects.
    americans could easily replace it, but i doubt the un would be able to take it in the first place.
    it is offensive and audaciious that any government would feel they have the right to control the net,and clearly it is motivated by a need to quiet so many voices that displease so much of the world’s dictators… what can i say? dotn go nuts though, just cackle as their silliness. the only reason we had a ‘net that grew like this was a lack of governance. should they take control, we know what will happen to it, and a few years later it will be the same thing with the new network, and it will go on and on, kinda like an enforced upgrade pattern.
    hey! finally found the purpose of the UN

  5. Glenn Avatar

    It’s not that I have deep fears about th UN taking over the internet.
    It’s just that the UN is wrecking its image (in my brain), once again, as a respectable international institution.

  6. UN Gravy Train Avatar
    UN Gravy Train

    Sorry Glenn but “a respectable international institution”… Where do I start? Hungary or Czechoslovakia, Failure to topple Saddam in 1st Gulf War, (Caviar anyone?), Rwanda, Azerbaijan, Dagestan, several other ‘Stans, (or some champagne?) Sierra Leone, Kosovo, Bosnia, Tiananmen Square, ineffective and damaging sanctions on Iraq while Saddam builds palaces, Kurt Waldheim Austrian 1970’s head of UN and former NAZI, (five star hotel of course!) Tibet, Taiwan, largest conventional war since the Russian Front in Ethiopia/Eritrea, eating caviar, drinking champagne and “discussing”. The UN is merely a talking shop for the elite of dictatorships. It has also been said that UN aid programs have made wars worse by feeding the combatants.

  7. Bill Quick Avatar

    How does the UN (or any government org) take control of the Internet? Well, the internet at bottom isn’t mystical, it is cables and routers and boxes and microwave stations and honking big switches and so on. In other words, real things in the real world, operated and maintained by real people. Put a gun to the heads of those real people, and they’ll make all that stuff do what you want it to do. Think the net is too international, too distributed for that? Ahem. How do all those packets get from, say, Europe to America? A handful of undersea cables, and a handful of satellites. They are called choke points, and they can be controlled, by naked force, if necessary. Although force often isn’t necessary, as witness the US security companies that were all too happy to build censorship into the Chinese version of the Net – for a fee, of course.

  8. Greg Avatar

    Bill Quick- You are right, it is scary how little wiring is just “hanging around” independantly, so any attempts at political control will just turn the internet into the Underground Cables of Soviet Nations.