An accent from a time

An accent from a time
: Last week, I heard a WNYC report on bridges that included radio clips from the ’40s that featured city voices with an accent I hadn’t heard in years, an accent that came not so much from a place, New York, but from a time, a half-century ago: snooty yet friendly with a touch of England and a dash of Roosevelt in them. They were self-conscious and meant to sound American but certainly not Midwestern (in the days before TV made that our sound); they were meant to sound smart and civilized even if they were American. These are the accents I imagined in the soundtrack of the round table at the Algonquin. And I thought: You just don’t hear that anymore.

This morning, I heard Kurt Andersen’s Studio 360 commentary/eulogy on George Plimpton and he described Plimpton as “the guy with the old-fashioned half-American, half-English voice who was regularly cast in small movie roles as the consummate WASP-in films like Reds, Last Days of Disco, Nixon, Good Will Hunting, and Bonfire of the Vanities.”

Right, that’s it: half-American, half-English, consummate WASP.

I think that accent died with Plimpton.

11 responses to “An accent from a time”

  1. Darren Rowse Avatar

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  2. rossi Avatar

    thats so interesting
    a lost accent
    ive heard that before
    old tapes played
    revealing a long lost accent
    a slice of our nyc past
    that was my fave part of
    gang of new york
    that it revealed a mostly
    forgotten slice of old new york
    i understand they tried to copy and old new york accent for daniel day lewis
    dont know if they succeeded or not
    but i love these old slices
    wish more could be preserved
    one slice of old new york
    that was still in full swing when i moved to nyc
    in 1981
    were the great ny cab drivers
    they drove checkers
    had photos all over of their family
    played jazz
    or classical music
    usually looked jewish or italian
    were over 50
    had been driving a cab for 30 years
    and happy to share their tales
    now you catch a cab
    the drivers name is always mohammed
    and he spends the whole time
    talking on his cell phone
    were is judd hirsch when you need him

  3. John Avatar

    Right, that’s it: half-American, half-English, consummate WASP.
    I think that accent died with Plimpton.

    Not so long as William F. Buckely Jr. walks the face of the Earth…

  4. button Avatar

    Along with the Women’s Work Exchange Restaurant– on Madison Ave which used to be one of my favorite ‘old-fashioned’ joints in NYC.

  5. George Peery Avatar
    George Peery

    This phenomenon probably helps explain why I (age 59) must repeat myself at least once when placing a simple order at Wendy

  6. Dark Avenger Avatar
    Dark Avenger

    Peggy Noonan’s accent is an attempt to replicate it, as she surely didn’t talk like that growing up in NJ as the daughter of a fireman who voted the straight Democrat ticket.
    It probably started dying out in the 50’s with the decline of the British Empire, and the midpoint of what was perceived as the American Century.

  7. button Avatar

    Oh, by the way, one of the old nicknames for that accent used to be: Locust Valley Lockjaw.

  8. Dave F Avatar

    How sad to see the Paris Review pioneer dismissed as one who played cameos with a patrician accent in a few movies. And in addition to Buckley, what about Gore Vidal?

  9. George Junior Avatar

    I empathize with George Peery having to say everything more than once when he orders at Wendy

  10. Joy Avatar

    Jeff, you said:
    certainly not Midwestern (in the days before TV made that our sound)
    At the risk of being nit-picky, I’d say that the “TV accent” is not Midwestern at all, but accent-less West Coast.

  11. bill Avatar

    The accent-less West Coast is derived directly from Midwestern.