Baghdad as Beirut

Baghdad as Beirut
: Al-Jazeera draws parallels between multisectarian Lebanon and multisectarian Iraq — first to take pot shots, of course: at Israel for its involvement in Lebanon and at the U.S. for our involvement in Iraq. But once it gets that kneejerk pissyness over with, the story moves on to suggest the ways in which these two lands are or should be alike.

If the Iraqis govern themselves as they truly wish, it’s not hard to see them split up into their pre-colonial provinces: Mosul, Baghdad, and Basra roughly for Kurds, Suni, and Shiite. Nick Denton has suggested that should be the case (and I’d link to the post if he, like a normal blogger, had monthly archives so I could go hunting for it). The problem with that, it’s said, is that it will destabilize neighboring countries, particularly Turkey with its Kurdish minority. We’ve said we want to keep Iraq, even with its artificial ethnic lumping, together. The prayer is that the Iraqis can pull that off without Yugo-style war.

How? Al-Jazeera talks to Lebanese leaders:

Sayyed Hani Fahes, a Lebanese Shia Imam who was trained in Iraq,

also believes Lebanon is a valuable lesson to the world. Like any spiritual leader, Sayyed Fahes is a firm believer in the essential goodness of humankind. He believes a better kind of regime could emerge from Iraq

5 responses to “Baghdad as Beirut”

  1. Howard Sherman Avatar

    Jeff: Let’s hope that Iraq will take the best of what Lebanon has to offer but not the radicalism that still makes the Hezbollah movement in Lebanon and Syria a threat to Israel. Even as late as Monday, Hezbollah forces were lobbing artillery shells into Israel.
    We have to be prepared for the possibility that once Iraq establishes a democratic government, it will be more closely aligned with Shia fundamentalists in Iran than more centrist Middle Eastern political groups. Our government is based on separation of church and state (although at times it seems like that bedrock is being whittled away in the U.S.). In Iraq, people seem much more comfortable with less distinction between their religion and their government.
    If we evaluate the success of efforts to bring Democracy to Iraq through a western prism, we may be disappointed.

  2. George Butcher Avatar
    George Butcher

    The problem with the Middle East is there aren’t enough Americans there. Once we convert them to our way of life, all our troubles will go away. It’s very simple. You’re thinking too hard about this. Just kick back and watch this administration — they’ve got big balls and they are going to go for it. Iraq was just the start!

  3. enloop Avatar

    NPR and others are reporting that today’s meeting did, in fact, include Shia representatives. It is the Iran-funded Supreme Council for Islamic Revolution in Iraq, which claims to speak for the Shias, that didn’t show, and is getting all the media time.

  4. R Roberts Avatar

    Exactly how is Lebanon a lesson for anyone except as a bad example? They had a vicious 6 or 7 year civil war, are still filled with terrorists and militias and are now occupied by Syria.

  5. Puce Avatar

    Shut up George Bucher! You are Bush as much in Bush type, stop all war NOW