Sopranos

I liked the ending. The banality of evil. The devil’s in the diner. Jersey as purgatory. There is no justice. Cue Sartre.

At the NJ.com forums, the ending confused some folks: They thought their TV’s had died. Damned TiVo, cut off again. Art appreciation in the land of the Sopranos. Existentialism doesn’t play outside Princeton.

It was a great run and an appropriate end.

  • http://love-4-punks.com/ gigi

    im upset.. i wanted something else.. but kinda good.. i like the way they left it open for you pick what u think is going to be next…

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  • http://scripting.com/ Dave Winer

    One thing’s for sure, they were playing with us.

    I really liked that the second to last song was a great Little Feat song.

  • head of the family

    I sense a movie!

  • patrick

    They ended it this way so they can make a movie in the future. Instead of wrapping it up, David Chase decided to to go the predictable route and leave it open for a bigger payday for him and the actors in the future. I wouldn’t be surprised if they announce a Sopranos theatrical movie tomorrow!

  • http://scripting.com/ Dave Winer

    Yeah they could definitely do a movie. We thought of that too over here.

  • selina

    I also wanted more..The Sopranos was such a great show and to leave us hanging on the dge of our seats and then screens goes blank..No…

  • http://ladow.net Bob

    Mt wife’s comment, “The worst ending ever!” For me, blah . . . it was easy to do it that way. I expected better.

  • http://www.whatsnextblog.com B.L. Ochman

    Appropriate to what? It just fizzled out. and they played with our heads. they could have done much better!

    they could have ended it last week with Tony in bed with the gun in the safe house. that would have been more interesting.

    and they can send John back to Cincinnati. So much for Sunday night TV on HBO.

  • Jacob

    Not sure how that was appropriate, several people saying it was the ultimate mind f*ck. I just think it was pretty damn stupid. It was a cop-out

  • shelley

    The last thing we heard was Journey singing, “Don’t Stop . . .!” I think there’s a movie–

  • Meaghan Marino

    I’m kind of going both ways on the ending. at first i was pretty pissed off and I definitly thought that time warner cable was messing with me when the screen went black.

    However, then I thought about it and in the past couple weeks they’ve been talking about death and that when it comes you don’t feel it; everything just goes black..i think Tony died and the last thing he saw was meadows face and then everything went black. But they’ll probably make a movie, but if they don’t, then I’m going with – Tony’s dead.

  • http://scripting.com/ Dave Winer

    Jacob, I agree. I’d like to be so accepting as Jarvis, but they were playing with us through the whole last episode. Every scene set up for something dramatic. I agree that it would have been more fitting, more dignified, less of a nose-thumbing at the audience to have ended it at the end of the previous episode.

  • Lisa P

    Ok, well the show succeeds as it always does…it makes people have these discussions. We thought the TV died too. What about those 2 guys in the diner? Were they gonna whack Tony? Were they Feds? What’s the significance of Meadow not being able to fit into the parking space. “Don’t Stop Believing” was a very appropriate song for the scene. We are left to come to our own conclusions but as I sit with the ending in my head, I think it was the signature of Chase for sure…leave them thinkin’.

  • http://scripting.com/ Dave Winer

    It should be noted that the last episode was not devoid of drama and resolution. Had they not resolved the one thing they did we would REALLY have been pissed. :-)

  • lena

    It’s ridiculous to say good idea to leave it up to our imagination ! What the hell is there a show for ….. we watch tv to WATCH TV…… a blank screen gives us nothing. Why didn’t David chase save the last 10 years of writing– we could of closed our eyes and imagined a show in a fraction of that time…… I don’t get it . Maybe David Chase wrote 5 endings and used none of them ??!! Who the hell knows………..

  • http://www.socialphilly.com Gus

    From one minute sitting there and wondering is Paulie and the cat the final scene, to being completly engaged in the Soprano moment Chase did the right thing and ended with us thinking what will happen next episode…

  • http://bostonbrat.net Angela

    All I will say is, I’ve never before had a tv show give me that kind of rush of emotions. From complete anxiety, raw nervous energy, on the edge of my seat, to stunned, to confused. Brilliant.

  • George in NH

    It was NOT an ending. One can wax existential from here to next week, but as a dramatic ending, it fell flat. Fans wanted some kind of resolution; not a lot of mini ones.

    The best part was the guy puking when Phil’s head got smooshed.

  • http://www.socialphilly.com Gus

    Tony’s dead, fade to black, you never hear it coming.

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  • Dan Murphy

    The ending was what it was. As much as we want to see something happen, we are ultimately at the mercy of the writer.

    The last scene played with our emotions by constantly bringing strangers into the restaurant (which one is the hitter?), by having Meadow struggle to parallel park (will she be the only survivor or will she be the one killed?), by having the stranger get up and walk to the rest room (he’s gonna come out of the bathroom with a gun just like Michael Corleone killed the police Captain and Sollozzo in a restaurant!).

    When we watch a great show, we’re along for the ride and its better than a roller coaster when the creators don’t show us the climbs and drops in advance. I’ll miss Tony and both of his families.

  • Dan

    I hope everyone emails HBO and complains.

    Put it this way… has anyone ever seen any WORSE ending? If it was an ending…

    Any high school kid could do a better job than THAT! And these are supposed to be PROFESSIONAL writers? Give me a break!

    THIS was the best of the 5 endings they shot? The others must have been pretty bad as well.

    I know one thing… you never, EVER want to disappoint an audience… and this… well, it was beyond disappointing. I had friends over, and frankly I was embarrassed that they came and saws this. They thought this was pure junk… and I agree. It embarrassed me.

    Maybe they intended this to be put IN the “john” in Cincinnati… sure smells like it!

  • tamanal

    The ending, in my opinion, reflected the last few years……Very frustrating, with all the seasons starts and stops, and waiting one or two years between seasons………ugh! Series finale stunk compared to brilliance like Six Feet Under’s finale………..Boring!

  • fisher

    Tony did not get whacked, at least not until after the VIEWER did and the viewer never heard it coming.

  • http://blog.publictivity.com Jason L. Baptiste

    finally, someone else who liked it! Ill admit first, i was in WTF mode, but I thought about it. This show was artistic with great character development and story. Some people are upset that something wasn’t spoonfed to them. I think the ending makes us really analyze and come up with the right conclusion. Ill agree with Dave that they were playing with us, and that a little bit more closure in some areas could have worked (or not build up so much drama). My feeling:

    He was killed, he didnt see it coming (referring to his convo with bobby in episode 1), and his last image was of Meadow.

    -JLB

  • jb

    it was a cop-out. there’re nicer ways to spin it, but that’s what it was. the End isn’t supposed to be Business as Usual, and Chase gave us Bnes as Usual. phooey.

    6 ft under set a high bar, and unf, the Sopranos didn’t live up to it.

  • Fedele

    I don’t think it’s fair to say Chase went for the predictable by…not killing off Tony? Huh? Killing off Tony would have been the ending absolutely everybody would have predicted, and the way every gangster project in history has ended. The only way to make it even slightly unpredictable would have been to have killed him off in some completely off the wall, random, accidental way having nothing to do with the mob, and still that would have been dull, only a vague twist. This was brilliant, imo, especially with all the red herrings–hey, that guy went into the bathroom, he’s going to come out firing like Michael Corleone, hey, remember when Bobby and Tony had that conversation about how you never see it coming, it all just fades to blackTony got whacked. Nah, my opinion, Tony didn’t get whacked, as Jeff says, he’s trapped in Jersey purgatory, the viewers got whacked. It the best way to end the series because it would have been impossible to come up with a satisfying ending that wasn’t a total cliche. Dead Tony, yawn, Meadow dies in a car accident, hey saw that coming, the joint explodes as Medow looks on in horror, how original, everybody smiles as they order dinner, um, we need an ending here, unexpected but not too visually stimulating. lol This was the only non banal way to do a life goes on.

  • m. villiers

    This was a surprising, suspenseful ending that leaves us hanging or to decide their fate, but this fits in with David Chase’s unique, original style as he makes you read between the lines. Often hints of things in some episodes are more or less figured out in later episodes, if you analyze & study them. There are scenes where no one is speaking and characters do not explain their thoughts to the audience – how often does that happen on other tv shows? It’s more realistic, which makes an audience relate more to the characters and the story. Funny scenes were when returning home Carmella notes how much mail they had received (as if her job of sorting through the mail was part of her “normal” life here) and after Paulie reluctanly accepts the ATM job despite his obsessive compulsive fears….then the orange cat approaches him. That was funny too.
    Tying up loose ends & getting closure was when Tony visited Sil and when he saw his Uncle in this last episode. So many things unsaid that we can understand just by watching. This is the best tv series I’ve ever seen and I will miss Tony & his 2 families!
    I think the majority of us wish the series would continue, but like Seinfeld, they are quitting when they are on top. It’s been a good ride!

  • Garibald

    I just rewatched the last 30 seconds and noticed that right before Tony looks up, there’s the clang of a bell very much like the one that kept ringing out on the upstate lake with Bobby and Janice. The door itself had only a tinkly bell, as demonstrated when the two black males enter moments before. You also hear the tinkly bell right after the ominous clang.

  • Mike Wendlng

    Great ending. Bought out the absurdity and bipolar nature of their lives. In the last few minutes of the show, the families starts were aligned and in a typical diner… everything winding down perfect. But with just the little tension of Meadow’s parking problems and the unknown guy going off to the bathroom. So what actually happened? Tony got hit from behind right as Meadow walked in the room? Probably. This just reminds us that such events and their proximity to the mob life are ever present and eventually. it finds you. It’s a very sad ending, especially as their lives seems to be heading down a good road (not that it would have lasted…)

    Tony’s death is the only “fair” ending… and adding that it was done in front of all of his family, on a good family night, makes it heart breaking.

    My instinct is to leave the series done as is, but if a movie were to come out, a great plot line would be to see Meadow takeover the family.

  • http://lolusux.com Andrew E

    This blog is a notable exception, but wow, have there ever been some dumb comments episode of television.

    I do like what another poster on a different forum said – the war between fans and haters of this episode will bigger than any described in the show.

  • http://lolusux.com Andrew E

    *Sigh* – and apparently I’m meant to join them, since I left “about this” out of my previous comment.

    Oh well, apropos I guess.

  • jerry r. robinski

    it sucked.

  • http://bennett.com/blog Richard Bennett

    Total cop-out, leaving all the options open for another season or a movie and afraid to tie up any loose ends. But that lack of courage is why the show has sucked for the past three years. Good riddance, I’ll take The Wire any day.

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  • http://www.crpsrsd.com Andrew Levy

    I went to bed last night saying this was the worst episode I’ve ever seen from The Sopranos. Probably not true as there were others that I didn’t like. When I woke up, the first thing on my mind was that they all died. True or not it doesn’t matter. Even if they had lived, so many of the great characters that I had loved from the beginning are gone, and let’s face it, Uncle Junior isn’t getting any younger. In due time I know I’ll find that next series to latch onto. It may not be right from the start, but it will come, or it is out there allready. Just think of the great ones. Hill Street Blues. NYPD Blue The Sopranos Six Feet Under I’m young and even though I would have preferred a Six Feet Under type of ending (probably the best I’ve ever seen), I can wait.

  • Cooler Heads

    Terrific ending. Life goes on. But for Tony, that means everyone is a potential assassin. Chase just turned off the camera, and the Soprano family went on with dinner, and spending money, and eating lasagna, and murdering people.

    Brilliant.

  • http://foneshow.blogspot.com Erik

    They wrapped it up. Tony is dead.

    Remember the conversation with Bobby in the boat a few episodes back?

    You’ll never hear it coming. It will just be lights out.

    The series has ALWAYS been about Tony. As soon as Tony is gone then nothing else matters.

  • km

    I thought it was the best series finale i have ever seen. brilliant. If you don’t get it, i wouldn’t be able to explain it to you.

  • http://andycarvin.com andy carvin

    I’d had a bad feeling it’d end like this ever since reading the EW.com article a few weeks ago in which David Chase talked about the making of the classic episode, Pine Barrens. On three occasions in the article, Chase said that there are no tidy endings in life, so why should he be forced to supply tidy endings to the audience? He was so emphatic about it, I told my wife not to read the article, fearing it would give her the same feeling it gave me – that it would end with life going on in one way another. That didn’t stop me from having my heart pounding in my chest as Journey played out the last few minutes of the series, though.

  • pellky

    Tony didn’t die. None of them did. Look at the people who walked into the restaurant (all from his past, disguised – the guy who owned the athletic store, etc. – ALL of them were in previous episodes) and look at the people who were already seated there – Boy Scouts, etc.. Look at the house they left from; a small house. Look at the kind of restaurant they’re eating in; a diner. Look at the clothes they’re wearing; nothing fancy. All a complete 180 from their previous lifestyle. They made it out and are in witness protection. The threatening people in the restaurant are the, metaphorically, the people who haunt Tony from his past … while normal life goes on, Tony will always be looking over his shoulder.

  • http://fred Fred

    Cop Out…Cop Out…Cop Out….

    No ending, live? die?…all speculation…Cop Out. I was pissed at first but now I realize I really do not care, and have not for two seasons. I do think I will end my realionship with HBO though…time to get a life!

    (I think Chase stopped caring two years ago too—Hey ABC…time to take a lesson for: LOST before you drag people along for 3 more years—and then loose millions of irate viewers like HBO has)

  • Kris I.

    You know what folks, I liked it. Any standard ending would have been disappointing in some way. I’m quite amused at the number of people I’ve heard rip on Chase for setting up the possibility of a movie finale as if they won’t be racing to the box office when time comes. Greatest series I’ve ever seen and I’m sad it’s over. Now there are zero hour-long dramas on t.v. worth watching. Few masterpieces come and go in a lifetime and I impatiently await the next one.

  • Paw

    “The banality of evil. The devil’s in the diner. Jersey as purgatory. There is no justice. Cue Sartre.”

    what claptrap. The episode simply served as a final “fuck you” from David Chase to the millions of hardcore fans who expected so much more than what they got last night. And if he, or Time Warner, think that I’m going to plunk down $11.00 for a SOPRANOS movie to see what really happens, they’ve got another thing coming.

    It is not entertainment’s job to be banal. It is not entertainment’s job to be inconclusive (which is different from providing the means to interpret conclusions in different ways). And it’s certainly not entertainment’s job to be unentertaining, which is what I found the entire episode to be.

    Contrast the way David Chase treats his audience with the way J.K. Rowling treats hers. Although I may not agree with the twists and turns the HARRY POTTER saga has taken over time, I can conclusively say I’ve never been disappointed by the results. I’ve always gotten the feeling from both the novels and the films that Rowling cares very much about sheperding the franchise along in a way that will please fans, not confound or confuse them. There is no Chase-like arrogance oozing out of every frame or page.

    And speaking of arrogance, where does this come from?

    “Art appreciation in the land of the Sopranos. Existentialism doesn’t play outside Princeton.”

    Perhaps Jerseyites didn’t appreciate the “art” because it sucked, Jeff. Perhaps existentialism doesn’t play outside Princeton because it’s inappropriate for a series finale such as this. Perhaps you owe a mighty big state a mighty big apology for this snobby comment.

    What do you think?

  • http://unclemikey.blogspot.com Uncle Mikey

    The least they could have done was kill AJ. WTF did we need to spend a single second of the last hour of the damn show on that turd?

    I think Tony was killed, but I agree that Chase is punishing us for warming up to these monsters. And in a way he’s right, they’re less than worthless and we should be ashamed of liking and respecting them.

  • molo

    thanks a lot to this blog and to the people who’ve commented.

    just watched the final episode, was really disappointed at first (what the fuck with the vid, with that end, it’s a joke, etc).

    thanks to all your comments, i strongly believe now that tony got shot, and because of the empathy we sure all have with tony, we’re tony, we die also, our screen goes black, one last noise, the bell and fade to black.

    with the tension at the end, the sopranos surrounded by two threats (blacks, used before, in the front, lonely guy gone to the toilets), plus the face of Phil Leotardo smashed (a shot in the eye alone is an insult), something had to happen (can’t believe he got away with the killing of PL, even if there was an agreement).

    after all, rather elegant for an ending (i’ll never be objective with the sopranos).

    now i can rest in peace with that meaning.

    cheers from france.

  • Scott D

    If Tony was whacked then who was behind it and why? I’m not buying this theory.
    Did you see “The Blue Comet”? Bobby certainly saw it happening to him, way late.
    It was always all about the family, they were all together and eating, like always.
    Life is very repetitive, full of ritual. The final resolution for all of us is not predictable .Why should it be any different here? A reflection of our lives. Instead we were on the edge of our seats, waiting for something grand to happen, while what we were really expereiencing was the mundane. The story lives on in our subconscious. How much better can you get! There is plenty of great literature that leaves us with similar endings.
    There will not be a movie.

  • http://billkosloskymd.typepad.com/wirelessdoc/ Bill K.

    I want to know what became of the changes
    We waited for love to bring
    Were they only the fitful dreams
    Of some greater awakening
    Ive been aware of the time going by
    They say in the end it’s the wink of an eye
    And when the morning light comes streaming in
    You’ll get up and do it again
    Amen

    -Jackson Browne’s “The Pretender”

    Isn’t this the death we all hope for ourselves–to pass away with no anxiety or drama? In this regard, Chase’s series end represented the perfect death. Dr Kevorkian couldn’t have done a better job.

    Im going to be a happy idiot
    And struggle for the legal tender
    Where the ads take aim and lay their claim
    To the heart and the soul of the spender
    And believe in whatever may lie
    In those things that money can buy
    Thought true love could have been a contender
    Are you there?
    Say a prayer for the pretender
    Who started out so young and strong
    Only to surrender

  • molo

    Just realised, it’s brilliant.

    watched the end again, when tony comes into the restaurant, he sees himself in the restaurant (with a different shirt).

    just as in the coma/dream experience.

    he’s already in the coma.

    got shot when entering the place.

    dreams of eating here with is family.

    he passes when the bell rings.

    misses his daughter (in dream or reality), maybe his only hope.

  • Cleavon

    THE “CAT” was Adriana…
    The attire of the people in that Diner does not match NJ… (although the music does!).
    The fact is – they did not know how to end it… too many directions & angles. So assume….???

  • John

    I noticed the same exact thing. When “T” enters the diner, he sees himself – sitting there in the booth already. He is dressed differently (Shirt) and even looks a bit different (less weight?)….

    BUT* the dream sequence does not make sense with all of the reference to current events. How can someone in coma know & relate to actual current events?

  • Pat Eichner

    Passed on to me by a friend……

    OK, at first I was really angry. I mean really, really angry. I can’t believe though that no-one has posted by now what happened. The only thing I saw that was right, was that in the last scene we are seeing through Tony’s eyes. Remember when he was speaking with Bobby…basically saying that you don’t see it happening?

    So here is what I found out. The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn’t that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil’s brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

    So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store when bobby got shot last week and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?). Car jack episode

    Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends. This was Chase’s way of proving that he will not escape his past. It will not go on forever despite that he would like it to “don’t stop”. Not the fans!!! Tony would like it to keep going but just as we have to say goodbye, so does he. No more Tony and I guess we are supposed to be happy that Meadow didn’t get clipped as well (she would have been between the shooter and Tony) since she is the only one worth a crap in that family.

    Thank you David Chase for making it so obscure that I feel bad for hating you at first. Absolutely amazing!!!!”

  • molo

    why not referring to current events when in coma?

    after all those were the facts he had in mind before he got shot.

    to me he recreates a dream meeting, reunifying his family for the last time.
    except meadow.

    maybe it’s a mix of coma/dream life for the action inside the restaurant, and real life for the action outside the restaurant : meadow can’t park and is rushing in fact to see her father dead.

  • Tobe

    The CW about Tony living so that the potential for a movie lives is wrong. Tony could die a Chase could write a prequel story for a movie. If there’s a movie depends if James Gandolfini becomes McLean Stevenson or Bruce Willis.

  • chico haas

    Am so dumb, watched the East Coast feed early in West and thought they clipped the end so I wouldn’t tell everyone.

    They didn’t.

  • mary

    edge of my seat television, which is the one true power of television. well done.

  • VIC

    TONY is DEAD!!!!! In the previous epidsode he is telling BACALA, that when it comes you dont hear it. It’ just goes BLACK and silent. Also when Tony’s dad got whacked (SAME RESTAURANT) he to had a difficult time parking. The guy that went to the bathroom is the guy Christopher ripped off. The two black guys are the guys that missed Tony the first time that Tony was suppose to get whacked. Last but not least the trucker I think had a son or something that got whacked by Tony’s crew. THUS TONY IS DEAD.

  • Mike Perry

    Tony dies at the end of the episode. There were four suspicious men in the diner: the guy at the counter that went into the bathroom, the guy with the baseball hat, and the two black gentlemen. They were forming a ring to insure the hit goes as planned from the bathroom, just like in “The Godfather”. When the bullet hits Tony in the brain, everything goes dead — you never feel it coming. The fade to black resembled the ending of “Butch Cassidy & the Sunbdance Kid” where they were surrounded by ruales (just as Tony was surrounded), and they rush out from cover knowing it is to certain death. The films ends with a freeze frame of them guns blazing as opposed to seeing them get cut down in a hail of bullets. The same thing happened last Sundy night.

  • Vernon

    What a joke! Is Tony dead? Sure, I can see and accept that. Foreshadowing from Bobby conversation? Certainly. Four guys with motive to kill him all at the same location? Not so much. Maybe as foreshadowing or to raise anxiety levels? Absolutely. In any case, the ending is a joke and obviously a sophomoric attempt for people wanting to work on new and different projects. To have this “high art” for an ending appears to be more of an homage to the writers themselves saying, “Hey! We’re artsy and creative and capable of formal literary techniques! Can I write for you now!?!” As they say, you’re only as good as your last project and by creating this buzz they can be assured of another writing credit. If they’re so into high-art, tell me which one of the episodes from just last year, season 6a, were high-art? Why this last ditch effort on our dime?

    Ultimately, we got whacked – or more specifically, our time and loyalty. What a sham! What made this show great to watch was its tie to reality and the truth in the human condition. That’s why we loved Tony – even though he may be truly an evil or bad guy, he did all the things we think about in the back of our heads but don’t do because we know it’s wrong or not in our persona. Or might get caught! :) I never came across a blog or conversation where people were excited to see the next episode purely to catch all the literary nuances of an episode much less use the Sopranos as a textbook example for contemporary literature. While I did appreciate the ideas and platitudes that were contained in episodes, it was neither the mainstay nor driving force of the show. And this ending doesn’t further any literary accomplishment that may have been accomplished by this show. If anything, it belittles it by showing its incongruity and haphazard utilization of literary techniques.

    Ultimately, I feel that David Chase decided this was his last chance for self-glorification and to really make more of a mark for himself versus giving his loyal audience what they wanted, as does any TELEVISION audience; resolution. Then again, considering the previous 2 seasons, you could tell he was sick and tired of his characters and the story – his writing/show became a job and he didn’t like it. As a matter of fact, you could completely replace the entire 6a season with one show containing pertinent facts rather than make us suffer through an obvious lack of direction or interest as to where the show was heading. So, he got his petty revenge on his show by using “high-art,” Sartre, or whatever you wish to call it, as an excuse for a lack of brilliance, intelligence, creativity, effort, and integrity. Unfortunately, it didn’t work and we had to pay for it.

    Gee, David, thanks for bettering us with your veiled sensibilities. But here’s one last thought: If Anthony Soprano owned this show and he saw this ending, what do you think he’d do to you?

  • TCR

    I thought the finale was brilliant – the show made you feel what Tony’s emotions and issues have been through all the seasons – anxiety, fear, resolving his family issues, his love of family and friends, frustrations at being the boss with nuts like Paulie, the requisite final whacking with Phil getting killed – life goes on for Tony with all of his demons, dilemmas and the things that bring his happiness. I really felt the show, and I think it was the perfect ending to a great run! If people wanted resolution or to see more killings or the entire group wiped out, they should rent the classics like Goodfellas or Scarface – I dont think that was the intent or the beauty of the Sopranos from day one. And I really don’t want to see the movie sequel!

  • sopranospoil

    He was killed….

    In fact, the ending was genius if you’ve paid attention to the show or are just a fan of well developed, well thought out plots that all tie together and have the memory of a champ to remember it all. The ending was simple, he got killed, but let me tell you why and explain in detail…

    There were 3 people in the room total who had a reason to kill Tony…..

    The two black guys, they were paid before to kill Tony but he was only shot in the ear, this was in one of the earlier seasons.

    Also in the earlier seasons, the guy who was sitting at the bar stool is Nikki Leotardo, Phil Leotardo’s nephew; he was in one of the early season episodes where Phil and Tony have a sit down.

    Here’s where the genius comes in….

    When Tony is walking in the diner, you see the camera focus on him, then it switches to his perspective, and you see him looking at the booth he’s going sit at.

    Then the camera switches back to Tony’s face, then it once again switches to his perspective, and it shows him looking at the door and looking at the people that come in.

    Everytime the door opens the chimes sound…….Carmela walks in—chimesAJ walks in—chimes

    When Meadow is parallel parking, still trying to get inside the restaurant, the camera switches back to the guy at the counter who goes in the bathroom……

    Then it goes to a scene where Meadow finally parks and starts running into the diner.

    The doors are about to open, Tony looks up….

    No Music…………

    Everything just goes black……………

    In one of the early episodes of the Sopranos, Tony is talking with Bobby about what it must feel like to die. Bobby says “at the end, you probably don’t hear anything, everything just goes black.”

    Part of that was revisited in the second to last episode during the last seconds of it, when Tony is about to go to sleep and he flashes back to the memory of him and Bobby on the boat… “You probably don’t hear anything everything just goes black”

    So in the end, the Journey song was playing, the chimes on the door sounded but when Meadow came in, the guy in the bathroom came out and killed Tony. It’s the reason you can’t hear, or see shit when he died…. it was from his perspective…. and everything went black, then the credits rolled.

  • Mad Matt

    This ending was utter bullshit. For 6 and a half seasons I sat and watched every Sunday. It was the only thing I had to look forward to, unless there was a playoff game or something. Otherwise, it was laundry, groceries, run errands, water the lawn, take out the trash… and cry myself to sleep in this cruel, cruel world thinking of facing my LONG Monday. It is sad enough that it is over, but then to be absolutely fucked over by that bullshit ending… Fuck David Chase! What a weak ending. 6 Fucking Seasons and THAT is how you decide to go out… I sat there looking at a dark screen, waiting for something to happen, thinking (Are you fucking kidding me)… I was blown away… I felt like I was lied to and cheated on. I felt like this was some bullshit prank or something. I was humiliated. I will never be the same. I do no think I can even watch Television again… I wish I had enough money to sue that loser Chase just because… It was a mean trick, It was a bullshit move! SHAME on all of those people who agreed and condoned airing that fucked up weak ass ending… Tony Soprano deserved better than that… I deserved better, AMERICA deserved better… And to that smart ass Sopranospoil… Well that is one helluvan explanation, and maybe that would be pretty genius, but how can I remember all that shit, did you go to Sopranos college or something? Either way, even if that scenario is true, and I will research it, I wanted excitememt, I wanted anything but to have to figure it all out… Most people have not seen every last single episode, I had no idea who that guy at the diner was… And I dont think those 2 black guys are the ones who tried to smoke Tony in the earlier episode… However they all do look alike… just kidding… take it easy… Anyway I was let down… It was a sad day for America.

  • Mad Matt

    Danm it, I re-read that Soprano spoil blog, and look the guy might be some kind of soprano stalker nut, but lets be honest that seems like the only logical explanation…

    I feel bad that tony is wacked in front of his wife and kids though… And it never said anything about there not being any sound…

    In retrospect, the shit was cool, now at least when I watch that with my kids, I can give a killer explanation about the ending, and they will think I am smart as fuck, when really I am only about 3/4 as smart as that!

  • Laura

    I thought the ending was perfect. There isn’t reallly a good way to end such a long-term and popular show as this one. I heard what some of the other endings were and out of them all this was the way to go. I agree with the idea that Tony was killed. But, I also agree with comments that this was “life goes on” scenario that shows them simply moving on after major conflict. It is more like “real life” if the Sopranos can ever come close to having normality. I love literature with symbolism and mysery that the reader has to figure out from clues. I guess that may be why I liked the ending. There won’t be a movie according to interviews with Chase but we can all go out and buy the series on DVD. At least that’s better than no Sopranos ever again.

  • Sue

    I think its a cop-out to make the viewers make up their own ending. Its as if Chase just didn’t do his job as a writer. He didn’t address the age-old question – does a gangster just get away with being a gangster or does he get what’s coming to him? Other mobster shows have also fell short of answering this question – like Godfather III (which is why no one likes that movie). So, it was disappointing. Its the job a writer to actually write an ending if you are writing a story. Any good story telling knows that. Otherwise, don’t bother writing at all.

  • http://buzzmachine.com kim

    Make up an ending…leaving room for a movie? What are you thinking?

    The writers put you in Tony’s world, with his kids and wife, as out of touch as they have ever been. He complacently sits taking it all in, very satisfied with himself and he hears the bell ring as Meadow comes in, but is shot before he even sees her.

    You are meant to see the end as he would…he never saw it comin’…

  • The Ghost of Artie Buco

    Wow. Kudos to everyone who picked up on all those characters in the diner who had reason to kill Tony. I’ve seen every damn episode and I’d never have gotten that. I mean sure, they looked suspicious, but I thought that was Tony just being paranoid.

    Let’s assume that Tony was killed–Lord knows he had it coming, and I can live with that. What upsets me is, if that’s the case, then what happened to Carmella, Meadow, and AJ in the diner? Killed in the crossfire? Escaped? Went into witness protection? Was the family initially saddened by his death, then perhaps somehow at peace with the fact that the man at the center of their lives, who they loathed almost as much as they adored, is finally gone? Who takes over the mafia family? Paulie? Maybe AJ?

    The fact that we’re forced to imagine these scenarios doesn’t make the ending brilliant or amazing, it only makes it incomplete. And exceptionally frustrating.

    The reason why so many people are upset is simply this: every great story has a beginning, a middle, and an end. And the story of our beloved Tony Soprano will never, ever have an end.

    Imagine watching the first 90 minutes of Star Wars, and just as Luke Skywalker fires his torpedoes to destroy the Death Star, the screen goes blank and the credits roll. Wouldn’t you feel cheated?

    Or Jaws, when Roy Scheider aims his shotgun at the shark, squezes the trigger and…………cut to black! Holy crap! The story has no end!

    The comments I’ve read disdaining our need to have a story’s resolution spoon-fed to us are absolutely right: we DO crave a resolution to the stories we’re told. What they fail to realize is that that’s only natural: a well-told story MUST HAVE a definitive, satisfying ending. We all know the Sopranos creators could have easily provided one that was thoughtful, riveting, creative and memorable. The fact that they did not is what’s so damned disappointing.

    R.I.P Sopranos!

  • Webb

    As I watched it the first time, the onion rings struck me as the tell. The ring is a symbol of unity, and here (as in most cases), the symbol of family unity. Tony carefully watched each customer walk through the door, and scanned the seated patrons. He accepts that he will always have to do this. The entrance of each reoccurring character emphasizes the extent of the responsibility he has to his family. Tony, Carmela, and AJ ate an onion ring. Meadow did not. I don’t know why. But she came to dinner in her own way, as they each did. Tony and his family live on…as a family. A hit on the Sopranos in this place would be difficult to execute if it was Carmela who deterimed the restaurant. Tony is definitely wearing a different shirt on his way in. Perhaps a different hat would have been more appropriate, but Tony doesn’t wear hats. The flip side of the onion rings (and we are forced to deal with one) could be that those who ate one sealed their own fate, together as family…..and Meadow did not. Again, I don’t know why.

  • Oops

    To me an ‘open ending’ is both a fraud (you let others to do the job you are paid for) and a sign of cowardice (you don’t take the risk of making a serious mistake). I’m afraid letting the screen go blank is just bad writing.

  • EB

    …….he whispered….. “Rosebud” at the end, it is low, but you can hear it if you turn it up.

    Just kidding.

    Entertaining thread, I learned a lot. Or I didn’t. I still think the cat staring at the framed picture is a metaphor for people who watch tv. I could be wrong though.

  • http://aol.com Bill

    The ending was actually very clear after you think about it. As Tony and his family are waiting for meadow to arrive there is a suspicious character who walks into the bathroom. As meadow walks in the screen goes blank…. i thought i lost reception and was going crazy. The fact is that a couple episodes ago do you remember when Tony and Bobby were talking in the boat at the mountains. They are on the subject of people getting “wacked” and Bobby asks Tony “What do you think it’s like, you know when you get “wacked.” Tony just replies “I think everything just goes black.” This is the reason why our screens went black for the time it did, Tony got wacked by the suspicious guy walking in the bathroom or the group of African Americans. Remember Meadow said she wanted to go into law to defend African Americans becuase they get mistreated when it comes to the judicial system. How Ironic would it be if he was killed by the group of African Americans. Or it was simply the supsicious character who may have been tied with Phil. Lastly, Tony’s father was killed the same way. He talked about it when he was a kid his dad was killed at a restaurant as well with his family all there. This are just theory’s but it seems pretty accurate to me.

  • steve bridges

    Great ending… life goes on…To those saying tony is dead…Sorry, but the show ends…He is alive when it ends. He is on top…he has done his deals with new york and came out on top. Anything else is your speculation and not what happened while the show was on the air. The people that are pissed wanted a nice little bow put around the show…and a moral judgment..You had better watch reruns of Murder, She Wrote.

  • Toni

    A very well-crafted episode. Tony met with Junior,Janice,Sill, Paulie, the FBI etc making amends with everyone, even protecting the cat (Adriana). He was trying to tye up loose ends before the inevitable. The years of counseling paid off: he was not a sociopath after all. Yes, he gets whacked in the end. Meadow arrives a little too late to help. It’s all very sad but inevitable and brilliantly written. There won’t be a movie.

  • JWK

    Great episode, left me wanting more…..read a number of the posts and believe that Tony’s still alive. Everything from the clothes, to the music to the diner represent safety and serenity to man searching for peace within his life…..Anyone catch the flip sid eof the Journey song……….”Any way you want it”……perfect

  • Insidescoop

    No one said anything about the songs he looked at and flipped past.
    They were messages.
    What were the titles?

    Listen to the words of the music.
    Dont stop believing,another message.

    They all were finally getting their shit together Sopranospoil makes the most sense.
    The fade to black is definitly a representation that someone got killed.And It was tony.But did it really happen or was it maybe sills dream?Or tonys?
    Who knows?
    Just like His father,History repeats itself ,but could have been a dream.

    Aj was gonna get out and do the right thing,but he got talked into leading a life like his dad so he got it too.Or could have.Like the guilt ridden mother who squirreled blood money into accts and all that.
    Meadow was gonna do the right thing,so she wasnt in the dinner in that”type of life”circle.For the drama.

    It was a representation of how tony thought it would happen.The black guys,the truck driver the other guy. That was his conscience or fears .

    This freak really should have commented or spoon fed it to us about what it all really meant man,This is bullshit.
    Maybe it was made so we would order it 15 times and try to figure it out?
    Or would buy the whole dvd collection to try to figure it out?
    Its all buisness people.It all boils down to dollars.
    He wont comment on what he really meant about the ending,so when he makes a movie,its open to whatever idea he comes up with.

    Basicly………HE LEFT THE ENDING up to the viewer.
    You got to have it whatever way you want it.

    Do you want them to live? You can draw a conclusion that leads to that.
    Do you want them to die? You can draw a conclusion that leads to that also

    It was a shitty ending.But if you watch it about 50 times.And watch the whole collection another 40,maybe the picture would be as clear to you/me,as it is to sopranospoil? No thanks.

    2 Things can happen
    The writer will blow up in the industry and become so well known he wont be able to piss in private.
    Or
    He will be criticized for being a self serving idiot and everyones gonna hate him and no one is gonna want to touch anything he writes.

    If the heat gets too hot,I bet he has an out…
    Maybe we will get lucky and one of the cast or someone will pop on here as a secret and tell us thereal deal.

    What a pale of trash.

  • Frosty

    At first I thought that the satellite went down and freaked. Having seen the ending, I think it was appropriate. I am disappointed in the mere fact that the best show on TV is no longer around. I would have hoped for a spin off of some sort. Please bring it back!!!

  • http://paullevinson.blogspot.com Paul Levinson

    Jeff, I agree with you – in fact, I think the ending was a masterpiece of real-life ambiguity. We’re all closure-junkies – we crave 100% clear-cur endings. But, every once in a while, an ending comes along that cuts things short before we see any resolution – like The Lady, or the Tiger – and those can be the most satisfying of all, in the long run. http://paullevinson.blogspot.com/2007/06/sopranos-end-and-closure-junkies.html

  • Loretta Darrillo

    Anyone who thinks there will be some bullshit movie has never appreciated David Chase as the writer/creator he is. IF there is a movie, it will be made by factions other than David Chase who buy into closure-addiction. Any movie would be an affront to the original creation and it will most-certainly suck. That doesn’t mean, considering the obvious habits of the American public, it won’t be a HUGE hit. It most certainly will, sad to say. After all…we’re talking about a country where 12 million more people voted for American Idol than did in our last presidential election.
    Those with a penchant for true storytelling appreciated the ending. Those with too little sense to apply independent thought to their entertainment wanted more. It’s a simple as that.

  • Kitty

    If I remember correctly , there was a episode where one of Tony’s guys was shot and ran out of the building. When Tony was talking to him about this shooting, he said he remembered the shots and running, but then everything went black. Could this be the end for Tony and his family?

  • assaf lewkowitz

    The ending is very simple and straight forward. never mind the “cut to black shtik”… it’s not the isssue. the show ends with Tony, surrounded by his family, his excuse for his evil doings, reaching rock bottom. His life is a nightmare, having to look over his shoulder cause’ anyone can be his assasin.
    that is not a life worth living because He cannot trust anyone. Which means true isolation and loneliness.
    Tony, like the Michael corleone character, is beyond redemption. there is no hope for him. He is dead whether he gets whacked in that resteraunt or not.
    I think David Chase had something on his mind with this show other than just tell us a story. Like all the great art pieces. the Sopranos were made to say something about our culture. in my mind it’s a bold and clear statement about America and all the countries that embraced american culture. and in the end of the most pesemistic, heartbreaking and depressing season of the show, comes the tune “DON’T STOP BELIEVEING” in what? you might ask. in yourself, in your family and friends. in your country and in your culture and in this world. Things can and will get better. “Don’t stop believeing”.

  • george oakes

    oh my god.

    are americans finally reading sartre’s existentialism ? “i’ll make references to sartre or some other insipid european, i’m all surface and mainly about appearances periphery imagery, after all.”

    i do approve of Reading, however. i encourage that in your ilk. you know who you are.

    yous guys hav a bad reputation, didjas know?

    read more often, perhaps?

  • http://www.PrimeViste.com Chris

    Yep, I go both ways on the ending – it’s either a way in to a movie b/c the end took you out of T’s life the same way we were introduced to T (from black in to T’s life to blink – black out) or it was “everything goes black” and T just didn’t see it coming and died. Personally, I feel more inclined toward the former b/c T is a saavy survivor – we go back an forth from wide shot to T’s perspective …. If T was about to get whacked he would’ve gotten out of that diner. Movie has to be coming.

  • http://www.twilightslastgleaming.com TLG

    TwilightsLastGleaming.com has explained the episode..

  • corrado

    The one stirring issue no one has yet to post a concrete resolution on is why Meadow was struggling with parking and left on the outside of the restaurant. To me its obvious she was the only one in the family disassociating herself from that lifestyle and becoming a productive member of society. Tony is the head of the crime family and his wife reaps the benefits while patheticly turning a half-hearted deaf ear and blind eye. AJ appears now to begin following in his father’s footsteps leading to the same life his father and grandfather led. Meadow contrastly is struggling to get out of this mafia trap and this is symbolized by her struggle to park and is subsequently left on the outside as she should be when it is apparent Tony’s past finally catches up to him with a sudden fade to black death{gunshot}.

  • TEH

    I thought the end was magnificent. It interrupted the fiction of the mob story we were passively invested in and left us in our living rooms looking at TV snow and ourselves, demanding that we start asking questions. Very Brechtian, as a matter of alienation effect (with a nod to Rod Serling), and also theraputic.

    The show was always about two kinds of narrative practice: psychotherapy and film-making–carriers of the exemplary fictions we use to come to terms with reality. More specifically the show was about genre: the mob drama, the family drama, the epic.

    Tony Soprano is himself a great questioner. The thing about Tony is that he is someone who cannot merely gaze passively at what passes before him. Instead he interrogates, analyzes, makes choices, and acts. This is what I think gives him the aura of an heroic figure as a protagonist. But his vision comes at a cost – thus the therapy.

    It is interesting as the story progresses that you see AJ starting down the same path, as he begins to question – as he does at Bobby B.’s wake – our culture and the violence and preditory behavior it is predicated on. And of course he becomes a candidate for therapy himself. But it is not his father’s business that is bothering AJ. It is just business. Corporations and governments behave no differently than mobsters, and we are all implicated in the brutality and absurdity they promulgate.

    It is therefore ironic that (reading the mob drama as a “morality” play) we condemn Tony for the world of crime he fosters and inhabits; but AJ seems to us naïve and ham-fisted at his bridling at Iraq, Afghanistan, his gas guzzling automobile, etc.

    But Tony Soprano is not a negative exemplum. On the one hand he is a kind of everyman – an intensified version of everybody’s beleaguered father just trying to get through the week without any more tribulation than necessary. On the other hand, he doesn’t accept the narrative he has been given at face value. He spills over. He is more than a father and businessman. He is more than a mobster. He reaches out beyond himself. The underworld serves for him, in epic terms, as the Underworld. The last trip to Vegas was about just this: the journey into the unknown, into sexuality, into himself, into the mysteries of Fortune, into the other – perfectly captured by the peyote sunrise. The mobster as flower child, as the man of discovery.

    So in the end Malfi is wrong. Tony is not a psychopath—a convenient misreading of people and narrative. And although she does betray her own ethical code (would a heart surgeon have dropped Tony because of his line of work? –Tony is correct when he tells her she is behaving immorally), Tony does come away from his encounters with her a better human being. No more panic attacks. His handling of the situation with Phil is exemplary – the least violence possible – everything seemingly (although one never knows for sure) back on track (nice touch in his negotiations with Paulie). If we could all be so frank about ourselves and our world, maybe we could at least do away with the senseless violence.

  • marc

    I have watched the lst scene many times. I even watched
    it with the contrast and brightness turned way up to
    see or detect anything hidden. Here is my conclusions.

    Tony was wearing the same clothes, no different shirt or
    jacket. Thats just the way it is. He even wears the
    same clothes in the scene previous to the final scene.
    Dont believe it, turn up your contrast and brightness
    and see for your self. Dreamstate or death dreamsstate,
    no I dont think so unless he gets wacked from behind
    as he enters the restaurant. I tried to see this, no clue
    given there. Could be dream from dude in hospitol though.

    Now Chase gives more shots of dude at barstool. The two
    coloreds that enter, one guy looks to be pulling his jacket
    back some as if checking for a gun, but no gun is seen.
    This guy then moves his left hand from pulling his
    jacket back.

    The dude at the barstool looks at tony, the scene shifts
    from a view with tony sitting with family and dude at
    the barstool still looking at him. Kinda strange that Chase shows
    that. This is the second time that the dude at the barstool
    is looking at tony. He either is checking out the bathroom
    to see if he can use it or is looking at tony.

    Now you gotta think that tony would recognize the dude
    at the barstool and evaluate the threat, espicially if he
    is Phils relative looking for revenge.

    Kinda stange that both the dude at the barstool and the guy in the
    ballcap are both drinking coffees, not really there to eat dinner.

    Anyways the dude at the barstool gets up and walks near and past
    tonys table, I didnt see any gun hiden behind the jacket as he
    went by. I saw nothing no clue given there. Tony does
    give him a second looksee as he goes by though. Tony doesnt
    do anything so I think he doesnt see the barstool dude as a
    threat.

    No in the final shots it gets a bit more interesting.

    The waitress passes by and makes a gesture with her
    right hand, kinda like making a gun gesture. Cant really
    tell, but she is definitely making a gesture with her right
    hand, looks like a gun but cant really tell. Could that be a signal.

    If you notice all the people around tony’s table, one would think
    that some one would react verbally if they saw someone with
    a gun. And that never happens.

    But tony and family are looking at each other and not what
    is going on on either side. So this leaves left and right open
    to who knows what.

    Well daughter is the jingle you hear and tony is reaching for
    a napkin or the mini jukebox. He then pull his right hand back
    and then with his left hand reaches down for something and
    is starting to pull up his left hand when the scene goes black.

    Most folks are keyed in on his face. His position is looking
    slightly to his right not directly to his right which is the
    direction of the bathroom. From the angle he is looking
    he could be looking at his daughter coming in but probably
    not looking at the dude who may have come out of the bathroom.
    The bathroom is to his direct right and a little behind his direct right.

    If the barstool guy is coming out tony’s angle doesnt match the
    angle to see him.

    Now tony is definitely reacting to something but I think its
    his daughter walking through the restaurant and not the
    dude that went to the toilet.

    The song is playing and the scene goes to black.

    I think that tony lives. The whole final scene has the viewer
    in suspense cause its the final scene in the final episode.
    There are some suspicious people in there for sure. Barstool
    dude is the primary suspicious one and gets most attention
    by chase.

    Watch it again and again till the movie or the series is
    picked up. If it doesnt then thats it the fade to black
    is us getting wacked and the series is dead.

    Thats my take on it.

  • marc

    Now for some possible conclusions….. for movie etc…

    Tony is looking at daughter coming to table, dude from barstool
    is really out to kill tony but daughter gets killed in the
    process as she see this and saves tonys life. Perhaps his son
    gets killed by a stray shot after daughter gets hit and tony reacts
    and kills barstool dude. Rest of movie is revenge from tony.

    The two coloreds try to rob restaurant and take tonys
    daughter as a hostage, dude from barstool try to kill tony
    but is foiled by robbery. Tony kills barstool dude or the coloreds
    kill barstool dude as barstool dude pulls out gun. Either
    way some innocents killed in restaurant, perhaps daughter, son
    or wife. Tonys out for revenge.

    Tony does get wacked in restaurant, rest of movie is spent
    on son or daughter getting revenge.

    Tony doesnt get wacked, barstool dude or coloreds are no
    threat. Rest of movie is anyones guess.

    So whats your take on the ending for the restaurant
    scene???

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  • Christopher

    I hated how AJ became so unlike his father.. I thought he would become a bad ass, not the oposite!

  • yerdz

    THE LAST SCENE WHERE IT SHOWS TONY LOOKING AT THE DOOR AS MEADOW WALKS IN, IS IN FACT THE SAME SCENE (FROM A DIFFERN’T ANGLE) AS WHEN THE TRUCKER WALKS IN AT 54:40. IN THE FINAL SCENE HE IS CHEWING HIS ONION RING AT 58:35 AS THEY SHOW THE CLOSE UP ONE SECOND LATER HE IS NOT CHEWING AND HE IS REACHING INTO HIS POCKET( THE SAME AS WHEN THE TRUCKER WALKS IN AT 54:40 HE IS REACNING FOR CHANGE ) THEY HAVE USED THE SAME SHOT TWICE BUT FROM DIFFERN’T ANGLES, THIS TELLS YOU THERE WAS NO MORE FOOTAGE, NO ALTERNATE ENDING, TONY LIVES. THATS IT, SIMPLE,