Poor Bernie

In the off-camera chatter before CNN’s Reliable Sources this morning, Howard Kurtz said that Bernie Goldberg’s publicists were calling media outlets all over before Donny Deutsch’s show was aired.

I had heard that they were giddy about the way Deutsch’s show went and well they should be, for it only garnered him more publicity.

In the heat of the moment, as Bernie was apparently blowing a gasket, Linda Stasi turned to me and said that she thought it was all just his publicity stunt. I shrugged and said I doubted that, silly me; I said he was just a little too far off: “What’s the frequency, Bernie?” But I think Linda was right: He used it to get back onto Fox — on O’Reilly, no less — and onto Rush and into the Washington Times, not to mention on TownHall. It sure beats hawking a book at a time in Coral Gables. It was a brilliantly calculated move. And it’s working. So good for Bernie. Capitalism is what makes America great. And it’s not screwed up.

Bernie — and Bill and Rush — still try to play the victims, the underdogs, the little guys fighting them big, bad ol’ liberals. What’s amazing is that they can still pull it off. Look at Bernie’s own list and you see a bunch of losers: Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky haven’t gotten us out of Iraq; Al Franken and Janeane Garolao are nowhere next to Rush and Bill; Dan Rather’s all but unemployed (and Mary Mapes is); Howard Stern has been forced off the air; Phil Donahue defines has-been…. The conservatives are in power, solidly in power, and yet they still hold to the M.O. that got them into power: playing outsider, victim, paranoid.

But it still works. It sells books.

  • russ

    You Jeff and the rest of the clueless scum dealing with Goldberg looked and sounded like whining brats without a clue…

  • http://buzzmachine.com Jeff Jarvis

    Yes, cue the Berniacs.

  • TWendell

    "It sells books. "

    Which you never read.

    TW

  • donniedeutsch

    So Jeff acted like a thug and is still proud of it. And anyone who disagrees must be a "Berniac" or Rush Limbaugh fan.

  • http://buzzmachine.com Jeff Jarvis

    You are a predictable bunch.

  • brendan

    "You are a predictable bunch."

    That's what you get for panning Dukes of Hazzard. :-)

  • Bill Peschel

    Michael Moore? The Oscar-winning millionaire documantarian?

    Noam Chomsky? New York Times pundit and respected intellectual (at least on the left)

    Dan Rather? Until he got caught at the head of a major news network?

    Yeah, all has-beens.

    Guess that’s why the Republicans won the last election in a Nixon-like landslide. What was that percentage again?

    Oh yeah, 51-48.

    It’s easy to criticize the image and demonize the opposition. It’s a wonderful shortcut to avoid critical thinking.

  • Disappointed

    I think your observations above point more the the lame people that liberals tend to look to for salvation – Moore, that mental giant Garafalo, that joke Al Franken and the like. Maybe this should be a liberal reality check.

  • SteveMG

    Why do I think that if Goldberg had had his head cutoff by Zarqawi that his publicists would have celebrated it as a great public relations coup?

    Publicists are jackals.

    Jeff: Was Goldberg informed of his publicist’s promotion of the show? Not an unimportant point, no?

    SMG

  • http:///www.chomsky.info noam chomsky

    I’d pay good money to see Chomsky versus any of these conservative “intellectuals” who get so much MSM air/print time. He’d kick their asses, pure and simple.

  • nick

    Jeff,
    I’d say the most shocking thing about this post is that you’ve actually bothered to look at the book. Congradulations.

    It seems you’ve made this rather personal with Mr. Goldberg since you looked like such an idiot on his program.

    …Hmm, I’ve setup Bernie Goldberg, it didn’t work, I look like an idiot, ok I’m going to now start theories that Bernie planned it all, yeah….yeah…go to the old conspiracy theory play book.

    America is so proud of you.

  • SteveMG

    Noam:
    Right, Chomsky could show up the pictures of the “silent genocide” he says we committed (and are committing) in Afghanistan.

    After that, he could talk about his praise of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in the 1970s.

    Maybe show some more pictures.

    Ooops, he says he was mistaken about Pol Pot. Okay, 1 and 1/2 million murdered Cambodians appreciate that mea culpa.

    Course, they’re all dead and can’t hear it; but let’s not haggle over the small details.

    That Chomsky, what a scholar.

    SMG

  • Tony

    “Capitalism is what makes America great”

    That’s the funniest thing I’ve read in a long time. Thanks!

    ps – you were joking around, right?

  • PSGInfinity

    He PANNED the Dukes of Hazzard?! An Outrage! Call Sean! Call Karl! (whoops, he already knows) (the implant we Rightists all wear, after all) Call Fox! Call Glen!

    …I’ve really got to stop now…

  • http://www.elflife.com/ Carson Fire

    Oh, brother.

    He used it to get back onto Fox — on O’Reilly, no less — and onto Rush and into the Washington Times, not to mention on TownHall. It sure beats hawking a book at a time in Coral Gables.

    Yet the book is — what? — #6 on the NYT bestseller list, and he’s not appearing on GMT, Today, Oprah, or any of the A-list big-media shows… he had to stage a carnival (according to this theory) on an unknown show on a little-watched cable network, just so he could get on the *right wing alternatives*???

    I’m no Berniac, JJ, but having been on the panel yourself, you’re still way too close to this story to see it clearly. And that’s not quite a tin foil hat you’re wearing, yet… maybe a tin foil beanie. Don’t let it turn into a full aluminum chapeau with long-distance antennae and a satellite dish.

  • http://erasend.blogspot.com kingdom2000

    HAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    God these “conservatives” are hilarious. One thing I love about them is they are so quick to anger and love to act so wounded. Its a joy to set them off cause its seems a sneeze is enough. Yet they universally seem to most uninformed bunch to. They just read a snippet hear, know of a rumor there, a headline from over there and voila they are informed. But hey, ignorance makes feeding the anger easier, which means my amusement and entertainment continues. So as long as that cycle continues I am a happy camper. (I wonders how many of these have read the great new conservative bible of bernies cause apparently those with no power is more dangerous then those with. News to be but again I read more then headlines.)

  • drc

    Jeff, Jeff, Jeff….

    Let me get straight to the point:
    Whether or not Bernard Goldberg is a money-grubbing, VRWC-exploiting, lefty-hating, opportunist is, to put it bluntly, irrelevant to whether or not YOU and your compatriots behaved badly.

    Sheesh, I have to explain this kind of stuff to my kids, it’s hard to believe some adults don’t get it:
    Other people’s bad behavior does NOT excuse yours.
    Or, perhaps to put it in language an emotional child might understand,
    You started it!

    Is Bernie whining? Sure. Did he get grumpy? Definitely. Has he overplayed the “mean liberal” shtick? Most likely. Is he making bucks off it? More every day.

    Does this mean that you, and the others on the Donny Darko Hit Squad, get a free pass? It shouldn’t. This kind of “he’s bad, so I can play unfair” excuse is unworthy of you. It’s the kind of behavior liberals engage in when they “out” gay conservatives, or call black Republicans “Uncle Toms”.

    You were wrong. Calling Bernie (and his defenders) names won’t change that fact.

  • John

    It was Richard Nixon who told David Frost, “I gave them a sword” when it came to providing his longtime enemies with the weapon to force him out of office. Donny Deutch’s TV show isa wee bit below the level of a president of the United States leaving office in disgrace, but Bernard Goldberg has been in TV long enough to know that controversy sells, and the fact that Deutch and/or his producers/guest bookers allowed the show to set up a 5-on-1 tag team match against Bernie and his book gave Goldberg the opening to play the victim without it appearing far-fetched or paranoid.

    You may think the book is trivial trash pandering to the believers who are inclined to be most against the people on this list in the first place, but if Deutch had offered up someone to take Goldberg side and at least make it a 4-on-2 debate, the odds would have been far lower he would have been given airtime later in the week by O’Reilly or Limbaugh to voice his complaints about the format of the show. A 5-on-1 situation was just too jucy a hook for the other shows to pass up, given Bill and Rush’s claims of media bias to begin with.

  • Jim S

    Yes, Jeff, they are a predictable bunch. For one thing the entire range of their critical thinking can be expressed by “If I think you’re a liberal, you’re bad. If I think you’re a conservative, you’re good.”. They are also quite predictable in how vicious and venal their attacks are. They are actually intellectually dishonest enough to try to claim that Goldberg’s list isn’t a simple slam against liberals because he gave himself a cover by tossing in a few conservatives. But notice that the proportion is over 10 to 1 against the liberals. Also notice that he didn’t include any of the conservatives’ really major icons.

  • margaret

    “Yes, cue the Berniacs. ”

    Jeff, your behavior about this is getting bizarre.

    This is not about Berniacs, it’s about you. I have never read his books (although I do plan to read this one now), and I have seen him interviewed only once. I also saw a video of him being ambushed by 5 people, who had not read his book, yelling at him, on some no-name CNBC show.

    Maybe you think with the new site, and the old comments archived, no one will remember watching the video.

    We do.

  • drc

    Bernie — and Bill and Rush — still try to play the victims, the underdogs, the little guys fighting them big, bad ol’ liberals. What’s amazing is that they can still pull it off. Look at Bernie’s own list and you see a bunch of losers: Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky haven’t gotten us out of Iraq; Al Franken and Janeane Garolao are nowhere next to Rush and Bill; Dan Rather’s all but unemployed (and Mary Mapes is); Howard Stern has been forced off the air; Phil Donahue defines has-been…. The conservatives are in power, solidly in power, and yet they still hold to the M.O. that got them into power: playing outsider, victim, paranoid.

    Have you been channeling Alterman? Let’s see, Dan’s gone…. leaving those conservative stalwarts at anchor at ABC, NBC, and CBS, right? Not to mention how the VRWC took over NYTime, LATimes, WaPo – oh, the humanity! And it’s amazing that FOX is still tarred as “right-wing” – considering how bad CNN and MSNBC have become at parroting the Karl Rove line!

    Just lost another 2 points in credibility, Jeff – keep digging.

  • CAM

    “The conservatives are in power, solidly in power, and yet they still hold to the M.O. that got them into power: playing outsider, victim, paranoid.”

    Of course we couldn’t continue using this highly successful tactic without the participation of so many liberals eager to serve as unwitting accomplices. Bullying is never pretty, and a video clip of Neolibs ganging up on our VRWC operatives instantly elevates them from the evil rightwing caricatures the media loves to create into appealing, sympathetic figures. The more vicious and inane the attack is, the better it works. Of course this just makes us feel better about ourselves, and often helps recruit open-minded liberals to our cause.

    So, on behalf of all of us in the VRWC, I want to take this opportunity to thank you for your assistance in this matter, Jeff.

  • http://www.elflife.com/ Carson Fire

    God these “conservatives” are hilarious. One thing I love about them is they are so quick to anger and love to act so wounded. Its a joy to set them off cause its seems a sneeze is enough. (etc)

    There’s a kind of sad desperation in mocking imaginary elephants.

  • http://bennett.com/blog Richard Bennett

    I saw Rupert Murdoch on C-Span yesterday quoting Jarvis. This was after I saw Jarvis on CNBC and before I saw Jarvis on CNN.

    I don’t know if Bernie’s a victim – he’s number twp on Amazon right now – but Jeff, you’re certainly getting around.

  • Syl

    Jeff, I’ve lost total respect for you. Your behavior after the show and your hits on Bernie have shown you to be a petty petty man.

    I simply cannot take anything you say seriously anymore.

  • Sherard

    So that’s fine. It was a publicity stunt.

    But what about the previous instance where Deutsch ambushed John Davidson over video game violence ? Unless you are going to dismiss that, this new fact serves only to show that someone can use the show’s ambush tactics for their own personal gain

    Certainly doesn’t prove that they don’t do it.

  • http://buzzmachine.com Jeff Jarvis

    I thought it was right neighborly of me to give you a post on this side of the design wall so you could keep the cult meeting going.

    This does remind me very much of the reaction I got when I criticized Michael Moore.

    Same ward, different doors.

  • Mike

    Jeff says,

    Yes, cue the Berniacs.

    Are you trying to be ignorant here or what? Have you yet to realize that most of the commenters that are taking you to the woodshed about this appearance couldn’t give 2 sh*ts about Bernie Goldberg? Most are calling you out because you claim to want honesty and integrity in the blog medium (new journalism as you call it), but showed none of that on this show. In so doing you have called into question your own character. Stop being such a child, it’s depressing to see how immature you are acting as a result of this.

    And then there’s this little statement about your idol:

    Howard Stern has been forced off the air

    What the f*ck are you talking about?!?!?! I wish someone could force me out of my job and then pay me $100 million to do the same thing. Of course it’s Bernie Goldberg that’s doing the complaining.

  • Matt

    I'm sorry, Jeff, but do YOU think that ganging up on Goldberg with 4 other pundits really looked good.

  • Right of Center

    “This does remind me very much of the reaction I got when I criticized Michael Moore. ”

    Did you happen to read his book or see the movie? Just asking….

    (But I will agree the book jacket was outrageous!)

  • whodat

    Jeff-

    Trying to pan all this off on “Berniacs” is pretty weak. What does “playing the victim” have to do with any of this? If he hadn’t been ambushed he wouldn’t need to do so. In his numerous other appearance–has he had the need to do so? Or was only after the 5-1 fracas on the CNBC show?

    You just keep heaping hot coals on your head.

  • Maureen

    In all honesty, Jeff, don’t most people try to put themselves across as the weaker party? You’re right in that it sells. Who wants to buy a book or listen to a radio broadcast from someone who claims they’re most or best? Don’t we continually hear from the left as well about the evil axis of conservative media & the influence they have? I mean, geez, to gather from the movies/books that have come out about evil Fox News, you’d think it’s the most powerful media organization ever to come down the pike, compared to those slackers at NBC/ABC/CBS/NY Times/Washington Post/etc. Playing the victim sells–whether it’s from conservatives or liberals. That’s how you rally the troops.

  • AnonymousDrivel

    Mr. Jarvis,

    I have twice posted a response on this thread and it was twice removed. So, I reviewed your “Rules of Engagement” to see if I was violating any of them:

    Rules of Engagement
    Any email sent to me can be quoted on the blog.
    No personal attacks, hate speech, bigotry, or seven dirty words in the comments or comments will be killed along with commenters.

    Hmm. My post did not violate those rules.

    I was critical of your post and discussed why. You should know since you (or someone on your behalf) reviewed it. Or maybe your new comment parser posts and then eats a post or two.

    At any rate, would you explain to me why it was stricken from the thread? If it is a software issue and some text screwed up the parser, then I could edit my post so that it doesn’t set any tripwires. If it was something in my post, then maybe an update to your rules of engagement are in order. I’d be a bit disturbed if it was only a critique that earned its removal.

    If you prefer to keep it off this comment section, then by all means send the rationale by email. Alternately, you may post that correspondence to this thread should you desire. I figure I can accept your rules too.

    TIA,
    A. Driveler

  • owl

    Nice bait Jeff.

    I love it. A fun post versus all the serious stuff (still a poor runner to the enjoyment I received from the Gannon riots). One small flaw in your case has already been noted in several posts. They seem to be able to do head counts. When you add all the A-Zs, one side still comes up short on the list.

    And conservatives gained power, in spite of the big guns. If I was a big
    A-Z, I might think I had a problem.

    Enter Bernie.

  • http://deleted AnonymousDrivel

    An update to my previous post (July 25th, 2005 at 1:41 pm) in this thread:

    After browsing around I discovered my original critical post had found its way to the improper thread either by reassignment/crossed software/something else.

    The original post of July 25th, 2005 at 11:01 am resides in the “the reviews are in” thread.

    At any rate I thought it would be appropriate to update the record. The post was not deleted but improperly assigned by buzzmachine. Obviously, Mr. Jarvis, no follow-up is requested.

  • Mike Quinlivan

    Why do you people assume Jeff even cares what you think? By mentioning Goldberg over and over, he’ll get morons to come to his site, enlarge his hit count, and basically generate more traffic. And by the way, how can so many people get their panties in a twist about some ass on a TV show anyways? Genocide in Daufur? Yawn. North Korea has nukes? Whatever. Bernie Goldberg, who claims he is non-partisan, is “outnumbered by liberals (although no one really proclaimed their political affiliation on the broadcast), and ganged up on!” My dear, the sky is falling! To the keyboards fellow citizens; this smear will not stand!

  • http://deleted AnonymousDrivel

    RE: Mike Quinlivan’s post (July 25th, 2005 at 6:09 pm)

    Why do you people assume Jeff even cares what you think?

    Um, because he presents opinion in a blog? Wouldn’t he just jot everything down in a diary if he didn’t?

  • Right of Center

    "Why do you people assume Jeff even cares what you think?"

    Who cares about that?

    We are just doing our Jarvis-ian best to point out A-grade hypocrisy at the top of our virtual lungs. It's just like Jarvis' campaign against Dell! The more they (and he) obfuscate the more obvious and worse the hypocrisy becomes.

  • hoobastank

    Bernie — and Bill and Rush — still try to play the victims, the underdogs, the little guys fighting them big, bad ol’ liberals. What’s amazing is that they can still pull it off. Look at Bernie’s own list and you see a bunch of losers: Michael Moore and Noam Chomsky haven’t gotten us out of Iraq; Al Franken and Janeane Garolao are nowhere next to Rush and Bill; Dan Rather’s all but unemployed (and Mary Mapes is); Howard Stern has been forced off the air; Phil Donahue defines has-been…. The conservatives are in power, solidly in power, and yet they still hold to the M.O. that got them into power: playing outsider, victim, paranoid.

    UMM – What drc said. Conservatives are not "in power" in the sense in which you suggest. 56 million Americans can't fucking stand them.

  • http://www.zmag.org Frank Church

    Chomsky is a great man, I smell jealousy.