Deep Throated

Deep Throated

: Isn’t it a little embarrassing for the Washington Post that Deep Throat outs himself — Mark Felt says he’s the guy — but the Post has to run a wire-service report quoting the paper’s own “no comment”? Wodward and Bernstein still say they won’t say anything until Throat dies (felt is 91 and so that may not be too far off). The story is breaking via Vanity Fair, which also doesn’t have it up online.

: Thanks to Bill K for putting the scoop up in the comments. At first, I thought it was clever new comment spam but, no, it was breaking news. Thanks, Bill.

: Just got the call that I’ll be on MSNBC’s Connected at 5p to talk about this.

: UPDATE: Tristan Louis corrects me: The Vanity Fair story is up here. It’s now up on the mag site proper.

: OOPS: Students said they had nailed who Deep Throat was. They were wrong.

: Tim Noah summarizes now-out-of-date speculation.

: The Post proper isn’t touching the story still but it’s Aschenblog is. Handy, them bloggers.

: FLASH: Woodward confirms that Felt is the Throat.

I’m about to go on MSNBC, blogging from the studio, and I”m hearing guests who said this wasn’t true backtracking fast. Most amusing.

Bottom line: A good conspiracy theory never dies.

: If Watergate happened today, Deep Throat would have had a blog.

: I was about to go on and then they broke in with a press conference from Felt’s family. I was in the middle of opening my mouth to speak; how many would love to stop me at that point. I don’t know whether I’ll get back on…

… I didn’t.

: I say this is a good day for democracy. In this age of transparency, we believe that the people deserve to know. And Felt was an agent of truth. So was journalism. That remains a story to aspire to.

  • integrity please

    I’m afraid that you’ve lost all credibility in talking about these things. It was only a short time ago that you were pimping Spirit Of America and claiming that existing net technology didn’t support Arabic.
    Yet when one of the brothers posts something like this:
    http://afreeiraqi.blogspot.com/2005/05/more-deception-from-soa.html
    you ignore it, you don’t comment. If the MSM did this they’d be justifiably crucified. But for people like you there is no mechanism to help enforce integrity, you can ignore the difficult, possibly embarassing things while lecturing the establishment on your moral superiority.
    Hypocrite.

  • http://www.rklau.com/tins/ Rick Klau

    Hey Jeff -
    The Vanity Fair article is here:
    http://www.vanityfair.com/pdf/pressroom/advance1.pdf
    –Rick

  • Tony

    “Just got the call that I’ll be on MSNBC’s Connected at 5p to talk about this”
    Why? Do you have a connection to this story?

  • greg
  • tjaks

    Why should the Post, Ben Bradlee or Woodward/Bernstein be embarassed? They kept their word to Mr. Felt for 31 years. They should be proud. Under the circumstances, I perhaps Felt should have repaid their loyalty by giving them the story instead of Vanity Fair.

  • Margo Weston

    Being a woman, I know I make this comment with the agreement of my sisters out there who are reading this blog with me.
    Men who discuss stuff like Deep Throat to excess are like little old ladies who have too much time on their hands. Deep Throat is so over.
    It does nothing but offer an opportunity for the media boys to keep Woodworth and Bernstein a little warmer then at room temperature.
    Should there have been a Deep Throat in the Clinton Whitehouse? I thought not.

  • paladin

    I was working in the government during the Watergate period. My co-workers and I would go to the nearest co-worker’s house on our lunch hour and watch the hearings. I read the Watergate Report. I read many of the books published about Watergate. But I have to agree with Margo—-I can’t believe anyone still gives a sh*t about this.

  • Mork

    : If Watergate happened today, Deep Throat would have had a blog.
    If Watergate happened today, bloggers like you would be lining up to denounce Woodward and Bernstein for irresponsible reporting based on anonymous sources that undermines the government in a time of war.

  • Jim S

    Well, paladin, I wouldn’t expect a died-in-the-wool blindly loyal conservative such as yourself to approve.

  • Chris

    The whole Watergate thing set the tone and tenor for journalism for the past 30 years — for the worse — it has been a collective myth subscribed to by a generation of press people — taking down a president showed the power and the glory of what journalism can be…
    The hubris that arose out of this is one of the things that blogging is feeding on right now, not to mention the disintegration of trust by the public in the erstwhile “journalist”
    Perhaps the conversation can now proceed — with journalists realizing that they are professionals, not priests, and that Watergate was merely one episode in a long storied history of the press in this country. Remember the Maine! :-)

  • lyndi

    I agree with Chris – Watergate was a big prize for Woodward and Bernstein – they were the powerful little guys taking down the President. Gave future reporters great dreams. They ran with stories from Deep Throat, knowing who he was, without questioning his motive or mentioning it. So now we know that it all boils down to a man pissed off that he didn’t get a promotion, so he overlooked his duties as an FBI officer and screwed the President that looked him over. Looks petty now. No wonder it’s Felt’s kids that got this into the news and not Felt himself. He’s not proud of what he is done, but his kids are positively giddy.

  • http://victorysoap.us/ Andrea Harris

    “Being a woman, I know I make this comment with the agreement of my sisters out there who are reading this blog with me.”
    Margo Weston reads my mind! All women are one, in mind-meld. What am I thinking right now, Margo?
    Actually, I do happen to agree with Margo on this one subject: can we please finally bury the corpse of Watergate, along with the stinky corpses of the careers of the Woodstein, who imho have done NOTHING since their Big Scoop worth noting? How long can you ride on the fact that when your names come up in conversation half the over-forty set thinks of Robert Redford and Dustin Hoffman?
    But other than that, expressions like “I know I make this comment with the agreement of my sisters” make me want to join an Eagle Forum quilting bee. Thanks, but I already have a sister, and one was enough.

  • button

    Harumph! They didn’t even mention Chris Carter all day.

  • http://www.newsfrombangkok.blogspot.com Walter Guest

    W. MARK FELT WAS DEEP THROAT
    That raises more questions that it answers. He was the No. 2 man at the FBI.
    Remember the stories of Herbert Hooverís secret files that made him the most feared man in Washington? Presidents couldnít remove him because of so much he had on everybody.
    Felt got passed over to head the FBI. Did Felt dig into his own secret files and get even?
    I wonder what Feltís politics were. Was he a Michael Moore type liberal?
    I wonder if the next president who has to name am FBI Director will think twice before he passes over the No. 2 man.
    This story will not go gently into that good night.

  • Margo Weston

    Walter Guest, my questions exactly.
    Wow, you mean to tell me that journalists actually talk to FBI people…off the cuff…behind closed doors? And do you think that some journalists are in cahoots with some members of the FBI, appointed by a previous administration? Wow! Could that be going on now? Surely not. Makes one want to chuck it all and go quilt bees.
    Since we are putting Watergate behind us, I am proud to say that I was there in Newport Beach when Martha Mitchell crawled out the window of the hotel, supposedly, running for her life. Those were the days, my friends.

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    >>: If Watergate happened today, Deep Throat would have had a blog.
    Nice try on trying to see everything through a blog filter – hasn’t happened though. Know any FBI agents who have a blog?

  • http://www.stevesilver.net Steve

    Should there have been a Deep Throat in the Clinton Whitehouse?
    Heh, heh, there WAS a Deep Throat in the Clinton White House.
    And I think you mean J. Edgar Hoover’s FBI reforms, not Herbert Hoover.

  • Jimmy Robinson

    “They ran with stories from Deep Throat, knowing who he was, without questioning his motive or mentioning it.”
    How do you know they didn’t question his motives? Maybe they did and saw this was part of a vendetta by Felt AND everything he was saying was true and could be corroborated. What then? Don’t report facts that are uncovered about corruption and crimes at the highest level of government because the facts were provided by an interested party?
    “So now we know that it all boils down to a man pissed off that he didn’t get a promotion, so he overlooked his duties as an FBI officer and screwed the President that looked him over. Looks petty now.”
    You betray a stunning ignorance of what Nixon and his thugs did of which the Watergate break-in was one small piece, Felt’s disloyalty is minor compared to their crimes.

  • Eileen

    Well, heh, heh, I believe that was her point.

  • http://chicagozoner.blogspot.com Cal

    Steve- “Heh, heh, there WAS a Deep Throat in the Clinton White House.”
    Steve was the first one to go there–Don Pardo tell him what he’s won!!

  • jeremy in NYC

    In the spirit of some of the commenters here, I would also like to point out:
    (1) Jeff has not recently commented on the following subjects:
    (a) the 20,000 bees that infested an Oklahoma home;
    (b) the Dutch vote on the EU constitution;
    (c) the US-Canada tiff over lumber; or
    (d) teddy bears and cute fuzzy puppies.
    Therefore Jeff is a big fat hypocritical doodyhead and I’m not listening to anything he says about Watergate nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah.
    And:
    (2) If Watergate had happened today, I say Jeff would have immediately:
    (a)ripped Woodward and Bernstein’s throats out with his teeth and then carried the bloody corpses over to the white house so he could show them to his lord and master Bush;
    (b) gone on TV and announced that no Watergate scandal could tarnish his best buddy George Bush, who by the way is now Imperial Master of the Galaxy; and then
    (c) released a hit single entitled “I Don’t Need No Stinkin’ Watergate.”
    How do I know all this? My psychic powers, of course.
    Man do I love the trolls here!

  • Margo Weston

    The trouble with history is that it seldom resembles what you experienced when you lived through it. I saved the newspapers from that era and it is obvious that there was great wrong doing on both sides.Bernstein and Woodward were so full of themselves at that time and the newspapers even developed a column titled, Woodstein or Bernwood. They left a trail of journalism students who would rather bring down a politician than report the news.
    Guess you have to live awile to really put the Watergate story in perspective. Someone has said that the minute the FBI begins making recommendations on what should be done with its information, it becomes a Gestapo. Should Felt be respected? I don’t know. I haven’t lived long enough, I guess.

  • http://www.templestark.com Temple Stark

    Jeremy, Mr. Jarvis has not put a great deal of support and energy behind any of those subjects you listed (TTBOMK)
    The Spirit of America “fracas” as I have read it around the blogs, should be worth more than a little mention here, in light of that. It’s called backtracking, admitting an error or explaining further.
    That’s all. I would be interested in Jeff’s take on that, in light of his fevered support of SOA when it was getting going.
    In that context the request makes much more sense, though I know nothing about the person making the request and perhaps those who visit here regularly do.

  • http://www.samizdata.net R C Dean

    If Watergate happened today, Deep Throat would have had a blog.
    Only if he wanted to lose his job, and maybe go to jail.
    What Felt did was a violation of agency rules, and possible a violation the law, since he was releasing confidential information, and may have been releasing grand jury info about unindicted individuals.
    It may have been for the greater good, but justifying violations of the law in the name of the greater good is a tricky business.

  • Dave F

    Call Oliver Stone!

  • http://RuthCalvo Ruth

    Better yet, Pat Buchanan is leading the charge. Just watched him proclaiming Felt committed a coup d’etat. Then had to back down and admit Nixon’s administration committed a crime, and whether involved directly or not, Nixon was obligated to fire the criminals.
    good thing Nixon made tapes of himself.