Bastards

Bastards

: I was passing through the newsstand in Grand Central yesterday just as, on TV sets hanging from the ceiling, FoxNews was showing the video of terrorist bastards shooting down a civilian hellicopter in Iraq and then killing the lone survivor. The place practically stopped. People all around the store just stood and looked up at the screens. Some, like me, just kept shaking their heads.

These are not insurgents. To call them terrorists would be to dignify them. They are murderers.

  • Kat

    They are Michael Moore’s minutemen and heroes of Marcos,daily kos, Moulitas. His site is ecstatic over this tragedy.I call them subhuman garbage. AP calls them militants.
    AP(The video begins with an unseen cameraman breathing heavily and running with the camera toward burning wreckage. Two bodies are visible, one of them severely charred, nearly all its clothes burned away.
    “Look at that filth,” someone says in Arabic.
    There are brief glimpses of a man carrying an assault rifle along with the cameraman.
    The scene moves to tall grass, where a man with thinning, gray hair and wearing a blue flight suit ó later identified as Kostov ó is lying on his back, the right side of his head bloody. The helicopter’s three-man crew was Bulgarian.
    “Stand up! Stand up!” the cameraman shouts to Kostov in English.
    “I can’t, it’s broken. Give me a hand,” he says in accented English, raising his hands for help. “Give me your hand.”
    It appears the militants help pull Kostov to his feet.
    “Weapons?” the gunmen shout at him in Arabic.
    The cameraman tells Kostov, whose face is visible, to step back.
    “Go! Go!” he shouts.
    Kostov then tries to walk, limping with his back to the insurgents, who say something to him that makes him turn around. Kostov raises his hands to somebody off camera as if gesturing to them to stop what they are about to do.
    “Carry out God’s verdict,” someone is heard saying, and the militants shoot Kostov at point-blank range, continuing even after he falls to the ground. One gunman shouts, “Allahu akba)

  • Earl Black

    Yep, Minute Men, Heroes of the Left, we need an exit strategy, and so forth.
    These terrorist scumbags are incredibly brave when facing unarmed, injured soldiers or civilians aren’t they?
    I agree with Kat completely: DU, Kos and other “progressive” sites can barely contain their glee.

  • http://american-dissident.org Eric Crump

    Exactly!
    To declare war on these guys was to give them way too much credit. They are murders. The 9/11 attackers were murderers. We should have treated them like the criminals they are instead of honoring them as soldiers.
    George Bush showed himself for a coward when, after 9/11, he declared a war on terrorism. It was a sign of quaking fear, not stern resolve. A leader with resolve would have aimed law enforcement resources at the bastards and brought them down through by the humiliating process of arrest and trial. Bush chose war, using the bluntest and least effective tool at his disposal.

  • Faramin

    These terrorist scumbags are incredibly brave when facing unarmed, injured soldiers or civilians aren’t they?
    This is a pure tragedy. Un-natural death of anyone is a tragedy. Killing one means killing many more who depend on him/her, who love him/her and who need him/her.
    But speaking of braveness, do you think when you drop half-ton bombs, the so-called “mother of bombs”, from skys on innocent people, it is brave? Do you think when you are up-to-the- teeth with high tech military equipments and fighting against those whose weapons are just like toys when compared to yours, you are being brave? I certainly don’t see it that way. Otherwise it would be nothing but hypocricy.

  • Kat

    Yes, Grump, but how do you put some 150 million of this pondscum in jail?
    Well, Faramin, you tell me, because the aerial bombardment is what you and your leftist friends engaged in, in Kosovo. I didn’t see many leftists crying about schools, museums, and train stations being purposefully bombed.
    That was the strategy, whereas in Iraq they are not targetting civilians…just terrorists.

  • http://american-dissident.org Eric Crump

    Fear, Kat, has I’m afraid inflated the number of murders on the loose in your mind. 150 million? Not even the Bush administration estimates al Qaeda and its associate groups at that many members.
    Get a grip!
    By the way, in answer to your question: You put these scumbags in jail by developing strong cooperative relationships with many nations. You develop your intelligence services so they can infiltrate terrorist groups, gathering evidence, thwarting their plans.
    Bush didn’t mind spending more than $200 billion on the Iraq/Afganistan military boondoggles. Can you imagine how many of these goons would be locked up for good if we’d spent that kind of money (or even half that much) on law enforcement and intelligence?

  • http://oodja.blogspot.com Jersey Exile

    I didn’t see many leftists crying about schools, museums, and train stations being purposefully bombed.
    Bullshit. Look all over the Lefty press of the time and you’ll see an awful lot of hand-wringing over Clinton’s “bomb from 35,000 feet” strategy for dealing with the Kosovo tragedy. The Big Dog was skewered on *both* sides of the political spectrum for his actions, if I recall correctly.
    You see, Kat, that’s the difference between the Right and the Left–we liberals have the moral courage to question our leaders’ actions, even when they happen to be from the same party that appears on our voter registration cards.
    Whereas for you Righties, the actions of your elected officials are either beyond reproach or justified by an outrage from the Left. When’s the last time you heard a liberal say that bombing the holy hell out of Serbia was justified because Nixon bombed Cambodia? Oh yeah, that’s right–never.
    And FYI, I know there were Left-wing protests of the Serbian bombings because I participated in them, as well as cultural and artist events highlighting the destruction of 1,000 years of Serbian art and architecture. So don’t try to tell me that it didn’t happen. That kind of revisionism only plays well with people who think Ann Coulter is an intellectual and Sean Hannity a latter-day H.L. Mencken.
    The Iraqi insurgents may be animals, but we’re the assholes who take delight in kicking the neighborhood dog. And right now we’re both getting big heaping plates of just desserts.

  • http://badhairblog.blogspot.com Fausta

    Well put, Jeff.
    As for bravery, Faramin, do explain the bravery of the government of Sudan’s extermination of its Christian population. Are the weapons used “just like toys”?

  • Kat

    I think the last poll indicated that 10-15% were of the terrorist variety–believe that all infidels should be slaughtered at any cost. Well, you can convert and become there dhimmi like you have. I’m not willing.
    The numbers are not inflated–likely too modest if you count terrorist spawn.

  • Shelly

    Doesn’t matter if you call them terrorists or murderers more or less do the same thing and are people who I don’t want to have to share the same world with but that’s life.

  • Kat

    And Faramin–they are onto you. I thought Canada was terrorist friendly–why are they jihading? Saddam even gave your PM a million bucks. Guess they want your soul for the jihadi devil.
    National Post
    NATIONAL POST
    Latest News
    Jihadists being raised in Canada
    TORONTO – A dangerous new generation of jihadists is emerging in Canada, warns a secret Canadian intelligence study that says known Islamic extremists are raising their sons to be “prime candidates” for terrorist recruitment.
    http://www.canadafreepress.com/2005/cover042205a.htm
    Cover Story
    Saddam invested one million dollars in Paul Martin-owned Cordex
    by Judi McLeod, Canadafreepress.com
    Friday, April 22, 2005
    The Canadian company that Saddam Hussein invested a million dollars in belonged to the Prime Minister of Canada, canadafreepress.com has discovered.
    Cordex Petroleum Inc., launched with Saddamís million by Prime Minister Paul Martinís mentor Maurice Strongís son Fred Strong, is listed among Martinís assets to the Federal Ethics committee on November 4, 2003.
    Among Martinís Public Declaration of Declarable Assets are: “The Canada Steamship Lines Group Inc. (Montreal, Canada) 100 percent owned”; “Canada Steamship Lines Inc. (Montreal, Canada) 100 percent owned”ñCordex Petroleums Inc. (Alberta, Canada) 4.6 percent owned by the CSL Group Inc.”
    Yesterday, Strong admitted that Tongsun Park, the Korean man accused by U.S. federal authorities of illegally acting as an Iraqi agent, invested in Cordex, the company he owned with his son, in 1997.
    In that admission, Strong describes Cordex as a Denver-based company. Cordex Petroleum Inc. is listed among Martinís assets as an Alberta-based company.

  • http://www.duneview.blogspot.com Duneview

    Jersey – Calling murder of Lyubomir Kostov “a big heaping plate(s) of just desserts”, even as a modifier of other behavior, tells me all I need to know about the “moral courage” of the Left.
    I’ll agree we shouldn’t just “kick the neighborhood dog.” But in my neighborhood we don’t reason with or negotiate with rabid dogs. We destroy them to protect ourselves and our families.

  • Faramin

    Kat,
    I wish somebody had thought you that in discussions, it is not the volume that counts, but the substance. And you ALWAYS lack that requirement.
    Speaking of National Post, it is part of media empire owned by a Zionist family; “The Aspers”. The editor and writers on this paper, are officially banned from criticizing Israel in any shape or form. Well, that should tell you about the real quality of the paper. Doesn’t it?
    In terms of comparison, it is something like Fox (in TV channels). Fortunately, National post ever since his creation about 9 years ago, never was liked by Canadians and after the first few months when Canadians were evaluating the paper, its readership has been on free fall.. .
    Kat, give some credit to Canadians. They won’t fall into BS as easily as, well, $59+ million Americans. They can actualy think for themselves.

  • Kat

    You mean like the CBC that won’t call a terrorist a terrorist and instead blames Israel and the USA for all of the poor muslims’ problems? The CBC that did not want Hamas declared as terrorists? The CBC–Canada’s Pravda and you are stupid enough to believe all that leftist swill they spew.
    FOX is on the side of America–you are a terrorist supporter. That’s why you hate FOX. Has Al Jazeera started broadcasting in Canada or do they refuse to stop the jihading and Jew hatred on air? Has CAIR whined and blubbered about that yet? Or does Canada accept the culture of hate if terrorists perpetrate such?
    Has your crooked leader been impeached yet or are you still trying to impeach some other country’s leader? If Canadians were smart, criminals wouldn’t be running the country.

  • Faramin

    Kat,
    What you said about CBC is pure BS. But since it is coming fromn you; the BS producer, I will ignore it.
    Also, You have no clue what I think of about the political affairs of Canada. But yet, you open your big mouth just to produce volume again. Until, you start saying something, anything, smart, let’s say by 2020, I will continue laughing at you.

  • http://www.whataretheysaying.org/blog/ mary

    Most of the ‘insurgents’ aren’t Iraqis, and most are funded by the terror supporting states of Saudi Arabia and Iran. Just like al Qaeda. They’re inspired by Wahhabism and dreams of Arab cultural domination and they’re part of a well-organized state funded paramilitary/fascist movement that includes the mass-murdering Janjiweed of the Sudan. Their supporters and fellow travellers can be identified by their frequent prattling about Zionist conpsiracies and their enthusiasm for the works of Edward Said and Sayyed Qutb and this movement is responsible for the deaths of more than a million people. And yes, these paramilitary forces are ‘terrorists’.
    We do have weaponry that is capable of destroying this movement – it’s capable of destroying several times, if we chose to use it. We didn’t choose to use it. I think we deserve a little thanks for that.

  • Kat

    And you know squat about the political affairs of the US, and just open your big terrorist mouth just to hear yourslf whine.
    Have you guys managed to get Omar Khadr out of jail like Chretien managed to get his terrorist father out of jail?Khadr even received $250,000 from Chretien’s government to build “refugee camps” in Pakistan near the Afghani border, camps which CSIS quickly concluded were being used to train Jihadists. Did Canada help the perpetrators of 911 by providing murder camps?
    Has Martin ordered the RCMP to arrest any more journalists for reporting the truth like he dis with Juliet O’Neill, a reporter for the Ottawa Citizen. Unfortunately she broke with the Leftist wing and took the journalistic liberty of reporting on a source which had informed her that the RCMP believed Arar was linked to Al Qaeda. Alas, 10 Mounties appeared on her doorstep at 8 AM a few months later with a search warrant, and spent 5 hours taking her home apart piece by piece, then headed for her office, determined to find evidence she had violated the Canadian Security of Information Act so they could arrange for her arrest. They weren’t interested in arresting the terrorist but the person who outed him as such. Is Canada a leftist only view police state? Canada rewarded the terrorist by having his wife run in the Federal election.

  • Ptolemy

    The greatest aggravation is the fact that these terrorists in Iraq aren’t doing anything different than Islamic terrorists in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Indonesia, Chad, or Isreal. Yet, somehow, these attacks in Iraq are to be viewed as special cases (insurgency) where value judgements are not to be made in the Media or the Left. You can romanticize these insurgents all you want Jersey Exile but these pigs have done more damage to America in the 10 years leading up to the war while the Serbians did nothing to us. It was easy to protest the Kosovo action because there was the combination of cloudy mission and no strategic value for the US so you weren’t exactly taking a major stand against the tide. I’ve no doubt you protest every action the US takes and somehow hating and distrusting your nation every time is intellectual while supporting your President is the very spirit of fascism. This is why many of us will not vote for any candidate you people support or at least accept. Why would I want someone who hates and despises me to decide my fate?

  • paladin

    Don’t you think it’s interesting the our US press disdains embedding with the US military because they see it as “propaganda”, but are quite happy to air enemy propaganda? Yeah, me too. US press doesn’t want to promote our military but have no qualms about promoting terrorists propaganda. Is it any wonder we hate the press? Well, some of us anyway.

  • Eileen

    I missed the nightly news the other day when 50 Iraqis who had been slaughtered by terrorists were pulled from the Tigris and another 19 were found executed in a stadium. Was there any MSM video of these events? At the very least, coverage of those atrocities died on the vine almost instantaneously.
    I am beyond disgusted with MSM’s glorification and wall to wall coverage of terrorist ‘successes’ and Aljazira hostage tapes. They particularly love to show charred bodies and wreckage, along with terrorist dogs dancing in glee. That MSM continues to insist on using the term ‘insurgents’ or ‘militants’ is beyond astounding. [Fox also regularly uses AP stories which id terrorists as insurgents.]
    The idea is to frame it as a struggle against the evil coalition ‘occupiers’ (another of my favorite terms), thereby promoting their leftist political agenda, rather than factually identifying it for what it is: only one facet of the Islamist terrorists’ quest for global dominion and the eradication of all infidels.
    How stupid does MSM think we are? It is this very arrogance, coupled with their blatent efforts to misconstrue and propogandize, which causes viewers and readers to respond with such disgust and disdain. And as long as they operate in this fashion, they pave their own roads to self destruction. For the more the U.S. public becomes educated about Shariah, Wahhabism and the reality of our enemy (even without any assistance from MSM), the more they will come to understand the extent of MSM’s treachery. Yes, I mean treachery.

  • Faramin

    We do have weaponry that is capable of destroying this movement – it’s capable of destroying several times, if we chose to use it. We didn’t choose to use it. I think we deserve a little thanks for that.
    “Thank” you very much Mary for killing “only” 100,000 people in less than two years. You are so “kind”.

  • Kat

    I’m hearing that an Iraqi has squealed and the scum have been arrested. I wonder how bravely they are acting now as they beg for their miserable lives.

  • amyc

    Eric Crump, the problem is that we tried the law enforcement approach for 15 years that I can remember–especially since the Khobar Towers bombings. What we got was an escalation…the attacks got bigger and badder, until we got 9/11. It really doesn’t matter which administration is in power now vs then. It’s just that the law enforcement option was failing. We’re trying something a little more muscular. I hope it works. I hope you hope it works too.

  • http://www.foo.bar.uk Neville Chamberlaine

    Surely Eric, if we just give that german chap the sudetenland we can have piece in our time? I have a letter right here in my pocket…

  • Airdale

    Ahh, the old 100,000 meme is trotted out again. No need to note that the Lancet (who originally published that number) has since disavowed it. Fake but accurate is once again brought into the discussion by the leftist.

  • Faramin

    You’re right Airdale. 100,000 is an old figure. It is now a lot higher.

  • LT

    Faramin and Jersey Exile
    You guys are BOTH way out of touch with reality. Both of you seem to justify the fact that terrorists are murdering civilians. And by the term “murder” I mean INTENTIONALLY targeting and killing. They are innocent, non-combatants. Thats how the “terrorists” operate, and apparantly you both think that is acceptable. How can anyone in anyway justify what happened to that pilot, or a civilian who is standing in line to get a job and is blown away by a carbomb? THEY ARE NON-COMBATANTS TARGETED ON PURPOSE. The difference between that and dropping a bomb Faramin? The bomb is intended for the “brave fighters” killing civilians you idiot. And yes, there is a difference between murder (INTENTIONALLY killing an innocent person) – Faramin and Jersey – NOTE THE WORD INTENTIONALLY – and the unintentional civilian death resulting from armed confrontation. If you don’t see that there is a difference, I don’t think that you are intelligent enough to argue with.
    LT

  • http://publius_salon.blogspot.com Kenneth Gauck

    Terrorists are worse than murderers. For a murderer, the murder itself is the purpose of his action. The husband who kills an adulterous spouse seeks a retribution way out of proportion to the wrong done him. The terrorist doesn’t care about those he kills. They are merely objects of another purpose. The civilians in that helicopter died not because they are the enemies of the killers, but because these deaths might frighten their enemies. A terrorist is more like the cuckold who kills his adulterous wife’s sister in order to get the wife to change her behavior.

  • Howard

    Hey Faramin why not just say the Coalition forces (or the Zionist Invading Army, whichever you prefer) killed 1 MILLION sleeping Iraq babies.
    It wd be no less hysterical then the blather you are presently spewing.
    The funny thing is i LIVE in Iraq, i TALK to Iraqis every day and they don’t understand why the US isn’t wholesale slaughtering the terrorists, foreign murderers and Ba’ath party dead enders we find EVERY day.
    But to twits like Faramin behind every problem there is an American who can be blamed.
    Here’s a quarter – buy a freaking clue.

  • Faramin

    Howard,
    I don’t think you are worthy of a response. You had proven that before, when you just cursed at me is reponse to my FACTUAL COMMENTS.
    LT,
    First of all, as I showed before in mny links (from your own colleagues) that you chose to ignore, US army people did deliberately kill civilians and particularly children.
    Secondly, when a policy results in the death of tens of thousands of civilians, please don’t give me the BS what is a deliberate killing and what isn’t. After all, to a dead civilian it doesn’t matter if the killer killed him deliberately or not. Because HE IS DEAD. Get it?

  • Howard

    Factual comments? Cursed at you?
    What color is the sky in your world O Wise One?
    Shorter Faramin: I am a loon without a clue. Please don’t point it out.
    Cheers.

  • Kat

    Faramin,you may have a point, I just read a link on PMR that says the U.S. is accused of “grinding the bones” of Palestinian children and “devouring their eyes.” The muslim mullah claims that this is a FACTUAL COMMENT!

  • Howard

    Ah what the hey – like a cat with a mouse, let me have a go with my fave Dictator supporting, trolling for hits poster:
    First off i wonder if you wd have the balls to say to any of the men and women of the US Armed forces that they would deliberately kill civilians PARTICULARLY children? The answer is no of course not. It is outrageous libel and more importantly that would result in you getting your teeth knocked out. Hell if you said it to me i would make your dentist a very rich man. There is something quite pathetic about a “man” who would so besmirch the men and women of the finest, most honorable and most decent Army on the Earth.
    Regarding your contention that the US Army killing tens of thousands of civilians, utter bunk by the way, unintentionally (that is what you are saying right?), is no better then machine gunning an injured man (or blowing up a church/mosque/temple/pizza parlor/disco/etc) is a case of moral equivalence and idiocy that can only be earned through years of willfully ignoring facts, common sense and thoughtfulness.
    You sir are an idiot. Not your run of the mill idiot, but a whole different breed.
    Enjoy Canada – a castrated country for a castrated little boy. Run along Faramin, run along.

  • Faramin

    Howard,
    That’s exactly how you’ve been raised: “A cowboy”. It’s not your fault though as you don’t know any better way of communication.
    Making my dentist a rich man? I am not surprised at all that you work for the US army. That’s the only thing they teach you there; use your power. Of course your proxy power. Because it just comes form the power of your equipments not from you yourself. Of course I don’t know how you can just make a dentist a rich man when you end lives with the power of guns. After all, you are armed-to-the-teeth with the latest high tech military equpiment. Without them you are nothing. It is not you but it is your equipment that makes you sound powerful. I am not a cowboy as you are and I do not deal with discussions the way you do, but if I was to meet you, which obvioulsy won’t happen and you know very well why, I would make your dirty nose meet the ground by my bare hands. You have no idea about me, you gun-boy.
    Speaking of the finest men and women in the US armed forces, “finest my a**” if you are one symbole of that fine-ness.
    You are just pathetic and desrve to be humiliated. But please make sure you don’t go out and kill Iraqis with the prosumption that Iraqis look like Iranians and Faramin is an Iranian. Also, don’t lose your sleep over me. It is not my fault if I am smarter than you are. I have spent my time studying rather than practicing how to kill. That could have happened to you too, but you chose to be an emty-headed idiot.

  • Kat

    Faramin,
    That’s exactly how you’ve been raised: “A muslim”. It’s not your fault though as you don’t know any better way of communication. Madrasa training doesn’t exactly teach you guys to be rocket scientists–you steal your technology from the rest of the world. Only thing you’ve invented in the last hundreds of years is a battery operated prayer rug and gut blowers and whiners.

  • Eileen

    LT and Howard: It is unfortunate all of us – but most particularly the two of you – are subjected to Faramin’s filth here.
    In my view, Faramin is a study in hatred. He says he’s an Iranian living in Canada and claims he isn’t an Arab or a Muslim. He says he disavows all religions and he’s Persian. He claims he doesn’t hate Jews although he refers to them as knuckle draggers, then touts himself as being ‘human first’ in his blog. He spouts and spews anti-American venom in virtually every post, calling anyone who questions his views stupid or criminal or worse (he habitually refers to our administration as a ‘gang of criminals’), supports terrorist tactics and rhetoric in every argument, usually by injecting insane non-equivalencies. He is Particularly Supportive of his beloved Palestinian jihadist, civilian-targeting gutblowers (to borrow Kat’s apt word) – and continues to claim he cares about humanity.
    He will defend Wahhabist, Shariah-crazed terrorists at every turn because their ilk support and ARE the Palestinian crazies he’s devoted to – those who wish to push the ‘Zionists’ into the sea. He supports those who, on a larger scale, wish to off all infidels across the globe. Of course he denies it, but you only have to wait a second… for in the next breath he’ll inject even more terrorist lines.
    His hatred for Jews drives and underlies every discussion he enters into here along with his concommitant hatred of America for supporting Israel. He spews terrorist ‘speak’ every time he comments.
    Do I believe he’s NOT a jihadist workin’ the net? Nah…..
    And no, Faramin, I have no regrets about mentioning your name to the CIA. You’ve more than earned the distinction far too many times and ways to count. As long as you talk the talk of my terrorist enemies that’s who I’ll consider you to be.

  • Faramin

    Eileen,
    What is about ” he claims” thing? It doesn’t matter what comes out of your corrupt mind, the fact is you are bullshitting as usual.
    YOU have never been able to bring ONE SINGLE QUOTE from me indicating that I hate Jews. ONE SINGLE Quote, despite the fact that you are constantly reading me posts and comments. You say I’ve called Jews as “knuckle draggers”. Embarrame me Eileen. Show me where I said that or shut up you little pethetic liar. You just don’t have integrity, but plenty of dumbness.
    I have said it many times that my problem is with the notion of religion, ALL religions, not with their followers. But yet you bullshit that I am against Jews. But before producing more garbage, just read the comment above yours in which all muslims have been criticized. But the combination of your stupid mind and your dis-honety, prevennts you from catching that.
    You have not been able to bring ONE QUOTE from me endorsing violence But yet your big and stinky mouth accuses me of that.
    You have not been able to bring ONE SINGLE quote from me, even showing that my claim that I am not a religious person is inaccurate. But yet you come up with bullshit like below:
    He will defend Wahhabist, Shariah-crazed terrorists at every turn because their ilk support and ARE the Palestinian crazies he’s devoted to
    I don’t even know what Wahhabism is. All I know is that it is a garbage like others. Same thing with Shariah. What has to happen so your dumb mentality understands that ALL RELIGIONS ARE THE SAME TO ME: ANTI-HUMAN. Is your brain so much disfunctional that you still don’t get it? You are an insult to human intelligence Eileen.
    I am not surprised that you don’t understand humanity. How could you? You have supported a war that has devastated tens of thousands of lives. YES, I AM A IRANIAN and a proud one. BUT BEFORE THAT (unlike you) I AM A HUMAN WHO DOES CARE FOR OTHER HUMANS. And I don’t give a sh*t what you think about me. In fact, when an idiot like you accuses me of being otherwise, I just know that I am doing something right. YOuR CRITICISM IS A CREDIT TO ME.
    And about CIA and what you did. Do you think that I am that naive not understand how easy it is for organizations such as CIA to track people who leave comments? For your information, it is very easy. Everytime I leave a comment, I am leaving an IP as well which is quite easy to exactly see where it is coming from (Jeff obvioulsy knows that) AND YES IT IS FROM CANADA, the country for which I have much more respect for that your country. But my issue is not the CIA, it is your sick mentality that doesn’t tolerate disagreements.
    Let me tell you one more thing, Mrs. 007:
    I have been communicating with many people on the net, some agreed with me and some disagreed. But there hasn’t been ONE SINGLE EXCHANGE of comment from me in wich I initiated insults. I Have always reacted to insults. But what can I do, when that happens, until I receive an apology, I keep humiliating the person so s/he doesn’t dare to try it on other people. With some people it works, but with some others, like you, it doesn’t. That’s why the humiliation continues. Otherwise, I have been exhnaging comment with many people, even somne heated ones and some harsh ones, but as long as my opponent remained polite, I remained the same. But as I said, I have never initiated insults. Well, may be I should thank my mother and father who raised me that way.
    Is this enough for you to go and cry to the CIA AGAIN? Go ahead, make a full of yourself AGAIN. YOU ARE SO SMALL EILEEN. So small.

  • Ptolemy

    Faramin is the depressing merger of a bigoted and backward Islamo-Iranian upbringing melded with an adult nihilist “progessive” world view. Literally, the worst of both worlds. No wonder you chose Canada to live in.

  • Eileen

    “You say I’ve called Jews as “knuckle draggers”. Embarrame me Eileen. Show me where I said that or shut up you little pethetic liar.”
    I did. Months ago. And I don’t plan to waste my time slogging through your filth to find it again.

  • Faramin

    You never did Eileen and I always asked. How do you live with yourself you little liar?

  • Eileen

    YOU are the dung flinging liar.

  • Faramin

    That’s the sound of defeat, AGAIN.

  • LT

    Faramin
    Don’t try to be logical with me. Get it. Arguing with you is like arguing with a two year old. As I said earlier, I won’t waste my time arguing with someone who justifies the acts of terrorists. You claim to be super intelligent, yet you can’t admit when your wrong, and you think that deliberate killing and unintentional killing is the same, because of the outcome. Its called intent genius. By the way Faramin, since you are such a PROUD Iranian, why are you not living there? I saw what you said in the thread above also. the funny thing is, you make this big spill, but can’t deny that correctness of what i said. Saddam did do all those things. And all you nonsense about the US did this and that, makes not one bit of difference about whether Saddam brought all this on himself. Get it? Run along and play now.
    LT
    LT

  • Faramin

    LT,
    I am sorry that you’ve decided to deal with facts they way you do.
    You never answred my concerns and questions. I do believe your “patriotism” prevents you from dealing with the facts in a courageous manner, that you claimed have. But that is your problem not mine.
    The fact doesn’t change that the US killed democracies around the world, including my in my country 52 years ago. Today, I AM SUFFERING AT LEAST PARTIALLY BECAUSE OF THAT. US has done that to many other countries. I brought many substantiated examples.
    LT,
    Nothing of what I’ve said was from may imagination. I always backed them with evidence that were mostly referred to the comments of your own officials. But you always chose to ignore them. Why? Bacause it is “un-patriotic” to criticize the US and criticize those who treaten others (with whom they dis-agree) to refer them to the CIA. I have not seen one comment from your like-minded displaying outrage at that anti-democratic and barabaric mentality. Well, that goes the courage you so much claimed to have.
    In the end:
    Saddam did do all those things.
    I agree, but he was backed by the US when he was doing them. AND I BROUGHT SO MANY SUBSTANTIATED EXAMPLES PROVING THAT.

  • Eileen

    Does this ring your liar’s bell, Faramin?
    http://www.humanfirstthenproudiranian.blogspot.com/2004_11_01_humanfirstthenproudiranian_archive.html:
    In your post dated November 11, 2004, titled “BANANA IN HAND MONKEYS CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF PALESTINE’S FATHER”, a few choice quotes, previously provided at BuzzMachine:
    “After all, he was in his own land, although practically in a prison surrounded by vultures.”
    “Today, after the news of Arafat’s death, the camp of fascists, or the camp of banana-in-hand monkeys who were jumping up and down was full of celebration. A combined celebration of crimes, death and stupidity.”
    As I recall, I then noted I could just ‘feel the love’ you express for Jews. And actually, my memory was kinder than your actual words, don’t you think?

  • http://tonynoboloney@hotmail.com tonynoboloney

    Faramin,
    Embarrame, pethetic, dis-honety, prevennts, exhnaging, somne, full (fool), all this in one post from a man who disparaged me for putting 2 g’s in bigot. You know what Faramin I don’t like you very much. And this will be the last post that I acknowlege your existance. You are a PATHETIC DISHONEST FOOL and an EMBARRASSMENT to SOME good Canadians, good sense will PREVENT me from further EXCHANGES with you. TONY

  • Faramin

    I knew you would start repeating the same bullshits that I once humiliated you for. Well, I’ll do it again:
    “BANANA IN HAND MONKEYS CELEBRATING THE DEATH OF PALESTINE’S FATHER”
    Absolutely. You were one of those and you are not even a Jew. It has nothing to do with Jews.
    “After all, he was in his own land, although practically in a prison surrounded by vultures.”
    I say that again. Arafat was practically limited to his compound surronded by the Israeli army which was truly like vultures.
    “Today, after the news of Arafat’s death, the camp of fascists, or the camp of banana-in-hand monkeys who were jumping up and down was full of celebration. A combined celebration of crimes, death and stupidity.”
    See the above. Have you finished your banana yet?
    I have written millions of words related the politics and THAT is all you could come up with? Boring repeatitions. None of the above shows that I hate Jews. And you are still wishing to find one to prove you were right. You will not Eileen. beacuse it doesn’t exist. Because it is not true.
    I am beyond the paralized mentalities such as yours and Kat’s to insult followers of ANY religion, although I will maintain my problem with the notion of religion anyway.
    Your desparate attempt didn’t work again.

  • Faramin

    Tony,
    You know what? I take it as a compliment. I don’t like you either.

  • Kat

    Today is the 90 year anniversary of the muslim genocide of Armenians
    (“The genocide of the Armenians was the natural outcome of a policy inherent in the politico-religious structure of dhimmitude. This process† of physically eliminating a rebel nation had already been used against the rebel Slav and Greek Christians, rescued from collective extermination by European intervention, although sometimes reluctantly.
    †††† The genocide of the Armenians was a jihad. No rayas took part in it. Despite the disapproval of many Muslim Turks and Arabs and their refusal to collaborate in the crime, these massacres were perpetrated solely by Muslims and they alone profited from the booty: the victims’ property, houses, and lands granted to the muhajirun, and the allocation to them of women and child slaves. The elimination of male children over the age of twelve was in accordance with the commandments of the jihad and conformed to the age fixed for payment of the jizya. The four
    stages of the liquidation-deportation, enslavement, forced conversion, and massacre-reproduced the historic conditions of the jihad carried out in the dar ai-harb from the seventh century on. Chronicles from a variety of sources, by Muslim authors in particular, give detailed descriptions of the organized massacres or deportation of captives, whose sufferings in forced marches behind the armies paralleled the Armenian experience in the twentieth century.
    †This policy was not an isolated phenomenon. It was part of a defensive strategy to maintain Islamic jurisdiction over a territory which had been conquered by war and to eliminate dhimmi nationalism. The Armenian tragedy was therefore accompanied by the destruction of Jacobite and Nestorian Christians in the Euphrates valley north of Syria) Bat Ye’or
    Terrorism has little to do with US policy but everything to do with islamism.

  • Eileen

    Anyone can slog through your blog and judge your intentions and views for themselves, Faramin, including the article I quoted from. Of course you attempt to further lie your way out of the garbage you spew. But clearly, you are one Jew hating, terrorist supporting dog.
    I hope I didn’t embarass or humiliate you too much, again.
    Go on, run along now.

  • Faramin

    No don’t worry Eileen. You did it to yourself, AGAIN.
    I know in order to prove you were right, you are deparately hoping to find something showing that I hate Jews. If you do know that is not true, you will disappointed. After all, it is not Jews that are important to you. it is only to save your face which is already in full disgrace.
    Ok, I will run, but only to film you when running.

  • sisyphusgal

    I have to say, this has to be one of the most ridculous back-and-forth discussions (and I use that word loosely) I have ever seen in a comments section. For all the “facts” you people throw around, you are basically participating in a rousing rendition of “are not, are too”. It’s truly disheartening to me that both within the blogsphere, MSM, and in ones neighborhood bar, the quality of discourse matches that found in the schoolyard.
    Are people today incapable of constructive dialogue, or are we only capable of a stream of vitriolic diatribes? All I see are a bunch of people trying to scream louder than the other person, because obviously she who is the loudest must be correct. Leftist, Righty, Terrorist, Insurgents, Fundies, Liberals, blah, blah, blah. Does everyone feel better to have such handy categorizations for folks and their views. Everyone labeled and generalized for easier consumption, because as humans we love using words to marganalize groups of people we fear, distrust, or feel superior to.
    I was at a bar last night and a woman with extremely liberal views accosted some poor drunk guy by asking him point-blank if he was a republican or a democrat. His outstanding if slurred answer was, “Well, I’m from Alaska”. The woman then spent the next half-hour berating this guy with her viewpoint. Anything the guy said in return she would ignore or raise her voice to override his.
    Three weeks ago, I observed a very similar incident except it was a guy with extreme conservative beliefs attacking a gentleman with more middle-of-the-road views. Middle-road guy said, “Well I think we could have handled things better in Iraq”, to which the other man responded, “If you feel that way why don’t you go over there and fight. Oh, but you won’t because you are an unpatriotic coward”.
    I really don’t understand what the purpose is in communicating the way that ya’ll do. What do you hope to accomplish? You certainly are not going educate anyone by name-calling and verbally attacking those with dissenting ideas. But perhaps I am mistaken and no one cares about education or participation in an actual dialogue.
    In parting I’d like to share some definitions of the word dialogue from Websters:
    b : an exchange of ideas and opinions
    c : a discussion between representatives of parties to a conflict that is aimed at resolution

  • Faramin

    sisyphusgal,
    I am sorry this has gone the way it has. It has certainly not been my intention. As I’ve said before, I can easily tolerate and even enjoy discussions with those who are in 180 degree opposit view of mine, as long as they do not initiate insults. Unfortunately, for months this has not been the case with many in here. I am sure you would realize that it is not easy to have a civil discussion with someone who calls the CIA “to get rid of me”. To me, that is a defintion of terrorist mentality. But I admit, I am not very strong in taking insults and I feel I have to return the call. Perhaps this is a weakness that I should work on.

  • Howard

    Bravo Faramin – what a BRAVE man you are. Of course i too remember yours and your buddy Bobby McIdiot’s anti semitic tirades (psst, we’ll keep it a secret though). Further, and pass this on to your lefty idiot European friends: A Cowboy is an iconic figure in American mythology and history – a cowboy is a figure of strength, courage, conviction and honor. Strength, courage, conviction and honor? You have a passing familiarity with these words, yes? Of course, they will never be applied to you, those you support or those we are defeating here in Iraq, but don’t let it bother you. Sure enough, sometime down the road there will be another dictator or murderer you can embrace against America.
    Hey let me guess: You think Mumia was framed too, right.

  • Faramin

    sisyphusgal,
    You see my point?

  • Howard

    You are pointless. Just like the Jihadists you root for. Soon to be on the ash bin of history. Those that you support will be barely remembered years from now. Unless we speak of cowards and murderers they will be long forgotten, much like you.

  • http://www.newsfrombangkok.blogspot.com Walter Guest

    The word is ‘assassins.’ That is what I always call them. That is somewhat fitting because the word is derived from some people who practiced that and lived in a town of that name in Iran.

  • rcs

    For a little more in-depth analysis of this event, check out Steve Gilliard (and his other recent posts on the use of mercenaries.) Money quote:
    “This dubious legal status means that the guerrillas who shot that Bulgarian pilot in cold blood may have not committed a crime under Iraqi law. As a noncombatant carrying arms, he had no legal status or protection. The guerrillas, even under the rules of law, were not bound to take him prisoner.”

  • Faramin

    tonynoboloney,
    The time when I was reading your comment, was when I was being attacked from everywhere. As a result, although I read your comment, I didn’t really “read” it. I just had a quick pass on it and I considered it as another attack just like the ones which were flowing towards me. Because of that, I did not fully understand what you were saying so I reacted unfairly. I do believe my reply was inappropriate and wrong and I would like to offer my sincere apology for that. This is not to say that what you said was appropriate, but it was me who should have responded more appropriately, regardless of what you were saying.
    I re-read your comment today and I realized that you were talking about an incident when I criticized you for mis-spelling the word “bigot”. Why that word was used by you at first place is not my point. However,since this word is not a word that I commonly use, I don’t think I ever knew what the spelling of that word would be. As a result, I doubt if I criticized you for mis-spelling it. After all, if mis-spelled, I wouldn’t even notice that. I sincerely do not remember the incident but since you say it did happen, it must have and in that case I sincerely opologize for that too. I realize that perhaps I myself am the worst speller amongst the people who comment here, but that never bothers me because as long as I get my message across I am happy, regrdless of the spelling dificiencies. So, I am sure with this way of thinking, other peoples’ spelling errors would not be a big deal to me too. I wonder, if you are mistaking me with somebody else on that particular issue. Otherwise, I would appreciate it if you let me know when that happened. I know it might not be easy to find the exact quote, so I take your word for it if you cannot find it. And I would like to offer my sincere apology if such thing occurred.