What liberal media?

What liberal media?

: There’s a most curious story in The Times today about Democrats.com‘s efforts to have media join a conference call to hear their side of things. They have no idea whether media actually called in. I’ve not seen any stories about the call. So there’s no way to know whether this is a success. Yet The Times devotes considerable attention to it on the front of the business section.

The larger story is a good and interesting one: Are conservatives doing a better job than liberals at using the blogosphere to investigate and spread stories and get them into mainstream media?

But this conference call thing is just a blip.

I called into one of them — subject: Jeff Gannon — because MSNBC was going to have a discussion mentioning it with Bob Cox and Ameriblog Americablog and I was to join in via blogcast. It all got preempted when the Pope burped. I got into the call a bit late and also hung around after the official part was over and I heard the participants asking with great anticipation whether any reporters had actually called in. None showed themselves.

So it just seems odd to me that this odd venture gets so much attention in The Times. That’s all I’m saying: It’s odd.

: By the way, I never did compliment The Times for its story last week on the Apple-v-blogger case: It was a good and blogsmart story that went to great sources, including Susan Crawford and Jack Balkin (quoted again today).

: Joe Gandleman comments on the conference-call story.

  • http://www.thetexastimes.com Tom Tyler

    After following up the links and sublinks in the NYT story cited here, it looks to me like Democrats.com is simply a PR agency trying to beg the Big Media for air time.
    Again, I don’t think we need the old media.
    As I have told anyone who will listen, I covered the Iraqi election at my website through a blog network set up to completely bypass big media, and it worked.
    I can see in my own, local area of the world how a group of bloggers working their own beats could easily out-do the local press in every way.
    The web is not a counter-media, a PR tool or a parasite. It IS the new media.
    Regards,
    Tom Tyler
    Houston

  • http://www.amylangfield.com Amy Langfield

    I think the Times wanted to discuss whether blogs are having an impact on mainstream media and they used this as an easy vehicle. I thought the main problem with the story was that it made “bloggers” one big lump, rather than saying blogging is a tool that many types of people are now using, including activists, PR people, etc.
    There is indeed one quote from a Yale prof making that point — though the rest of the story defeats it, yammering on about “the bloggers” “bloggers on all sides agree” …

  • http://ripnread.blogspot.com Charlie Quidnunc

    The recording of the conference call is up on the web. I played 2 minutes of it in my podcast today. Give it a listen if you get a minute. These guys are raving conspiracy nuts. If the left expects traditional reporters to listen for more than a few minutes, they need a more sober voice.
    Recording available on my blog.

  • Cog

    I like the term Democrats.com coined for the bankruptcy bill, the “Republican Debt Slavery Act of 2005″.
    Reason #34056732 that the Democratic party will be rolled yet again in the next election. I blame Kos and Atrios for making this kind of dreck acceptable to the mainstream of the party.
    Nice work.

  • Cog

    Oh, and if you are going to mention Kos again on Connected, how about one of these two posts:
    The “myth of the blue finger”:
    http://dailykos.com/story/2005/3/13/23395/2578
    And “Is Iraq Progressing”, [NO]:
    http://dailykos.com/story/2005/3/13/214335/107
    Two feeble attempts by DailyKos to spin the elections in Iraq as blip on the downward spiral of George McBushOilChimpy’s war for reconstruction contracts, oh and for oil.

  • Anna

    I suspect you meant Americablog, not Ameriblog. It is a mistake I’ve made too.

  • http://www.buzzmachine.com Jeff Jarvis

    Anna:
    Thanks! You’re so right and I was so wrong. Appreciate it.
    jeff

  • http://ari.typepad.com Steve Rhodes

    The best part of any media conference call is always listening to the discussion afterwards where they wonder if any reporters are still listening, decide none are, and then engage in much more interesting, candid conversation.
    If they were as interesting during the actual call, they’d get more coverage.

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