Free Muslims Against Terrorism

Free Muslims Against Terrorism

: I hadn’t heard of Free Muslims Against Terrorism until I read a link on Relapsed Catholic to this from one of the group’s leaders, Kamal Nawash:

Only moderate Muslims can challenge and defeat extremist Muslims. We can no longer afford to be silent. If we remain silent to the extremism within our community, then we should not expect anyone to listen to us when we complain of stereotyping and discrimination by non-Muslims. We should not be surprised when the world treats all of us as terrorists. And we should not be surprised when we are profiled at airports.

Simply put, not only do Muslims need to join the war against extremism and terror, we need to take the lead in this war.

I’ve been waiting a long time to hear that.

  • rastajenk

    You could almost replace “Muslims” with “Democrats” and have a fairly cogent point.

  • Faramin

    Interesting. I was thinking about replacing some words too. But unlike rastajenk, I tried “Republicans”, “Christians” and “Jews” and both made sense. The same problem does exist with exreme Christianity and Joudasim. They are at least as dangerous.

  • Faramin

    Oops, I added “Republicans” later but forgot to modify the rest of the comment accordingly. This does it.

  • Kat

    Faramin, yeah I heard the Pope preach that we should behead all infidels and impose Catholicism on the masses–almost like the muslim leaders.

  • Faramin

    Jumping at my throat again Kat?
    You are not worth the reply as you are shown numerous times that you are one of those I was talking about.

  • Kat

    And Christians don’t allow mosques or temples where they are the majority and burn all existing mosques. Yup, really similar, Faramin.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    I’ve been waiting a long time to hear that.
    then like most nutters, you haven’t been listening.
    For example, the VAST, VAST majority of the Muslim world unequivocally condemned 9-11. But anti-Muslim bigots prefer to forget that rather significant fact.

  • http://www.xbip.com Lennie

    When was the last time you saw Christians out behedaing people or sending out youth to blow themselves to kill others who don’t agree with them? These terrorists are cold blooded murderers. They are nothing like Christians or Jews.

  • http://RuthCalvo Ruth

    Lennie:
    In the Sudan and in the Ukraine, some Christians are conducting an eradication of the Muslims. That doesn’t make you or me or anyone who happens to be Christian into anything other than that person, as an individual, is.

  • Kat

    Oh, I thought muslims were eradicating Christians in the Sudan. Maybe Christians are fighting for their lives in the Sudan, rather than becoming a sacrifice to allah. I’d kill too, before I’d be islamized.

  • http://RuthCalvo Ruth

    Faramin:
    Just because certain people who comment here, on Jeff’s nickel, represent their community as if it dealt in anti-islamic attitudes, doesn’t make it Christian or them Christians.

  • tony loewe

    I too have been waiting a long time to hear that. We must realize that there are over a billion muslims the vast majority of which are not terrorists. It certainly is a public relations problem for decent arab speaking people everywhere and especially in Iraq, who need to take a lead role in denouncing the extremist minority amongst them or risk continued racial profiling and discrimanation. Only when Muslims themselves condemn this jihad will real progress be made.

  • DanM

    tony loewe,
    Interesting that you are the only one THAT ACTUALLY ADDRESSES Jeff’s post. Sorry for the scream…
    Would you other “guys” SHUT UP and actually address the question at hand? I seem to be screaming a lot… Karl is on the line now, I have to go… There’s a domination to plan.

  • http://RuthCalvo Ruth

    DanM:
    Read much? Try my original post.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    It certainly is a public relations problem for decent arab speaking people everywhere and especially in Iraq, who need to take a lead role in denouncing the extremist minority amongst them or risk continued racial profiling and discrimanation.
    this may well be the wingnut quote of the month.
    I mean, could this scumbag be any more of a bigot? His logic (that all Muslims must answer for the behavior of a miniscule minority of Muslims) is the exact same kind of thinking that Osama bin Laden used to justify the attacks of 9-11.
    The United States, in its efforts to promote its own “values”, has already killed at least 10 times the number of Muslims than Americans that were killed by Osama bin Laden in his effort to promote his “values.”
    But Muslims are the ones who have to explain themselves?

  • Kat

    Miniscule amount my ass–try as many as several hundred million. And to have that many trained murderers–yes, muslims need to explain themselves. Especially when grade school muslim kids see them as heroes and their victims as deserving of death.

  • http://RuthCalvo Ruth

    Peden wrote:
    “Well, Humane Ruth, if you can’t admit that it is “inhumane” to interrupt the process which would have produced a human being just like the rest of us we see wandering around, maybe I’m going to have to start favoring retroactive abortion – upon people like you”
    Kat you and your sort are just as guilty, with your death threats.

  • Faramin

    Lennie,
    When was the last time you saw Christians out behedaing people or sending out youth to blow themselves to kill others who don’t agree with them? These terrorists are cold blooded murderers. They are nothing like Christians or Jews.
    Yeah, they don’t behead. They use technology kill. They just bomb the hell out of civilians, and they claim to be Christians and Jews. They are as guilty as Muslim extrimists, if not more.

  • Faramin

    …I’d kill too, before…
    You’ve already killed, the remaining few cells of your brain, that is.

  • Kat

    Getting bored in that moque basement waiting for your call, Faramin?

  • von

    yes, muslims need to explain themselves…
    A friend of mine had an encounter with a muslim on his “blog” (if you will). It actually ended up being quite interesting, and worth the read if you are of a “christian” background, or you haven’t ever talked to a muslim before in detail.
    Part One
    Part Two
    Part Three

  • tonynoboloney

    Hey Paul, I’m kinda new at this blog thing and am not familiar with all the terminology. It is grand to be considered for the “wingnut quote of the month” but not sure what a wingnut is? I assume by your tone it is not a good thing. I am though familiar with the terms “scumbag” and “bigot” of which I am neither. Also your comparison of me to Osama Bin Ladin is a ridiculous assertation, perhaps if the likes of Osama had been censured in the world press as well as on the ground in the mid east by more moderate muslims we would not be having this conversation. Your use of derogatory terms to make your erronious point further negates its validity.
    And yes paul I really do believe that All “decent” Muslims should get involved in condemning the actions of the “miniscule minority” represented by the likes of Osama and Saddam. We are all responsible for the carnage if we sit idley by and allow this Islamic extremism to fester and grow anywhere in the world. As to promoting american values on the world, whats the matter Paul? don’t like America?

  • http://RuthCalvo Ruth

    Tonynoboloney:
    Welcome. Don’t take such comments as Paul’s personally, some commenters are so heavily laden with their own ideology, they can’t see ‘the woods for the trees’. Most bloggers are pretty decent sorts, thank you for your good wishes and words.

  • http://www.glcq.com p.lukasiak

    And yes paul I really do believe that All “decent” Muslims should get involved in condemning the actions of the “miniscule minority” represented by the likes of Osama and Saddam.
    do you feel the same way about condemning the killing of tens of thousands of Muslims by the likes of George W. Bush? If not, then you are a hypocrite.
    We are all responsible for the carnage if we sit idley by and allow this Islamic extremism to fester and grow anywhere in the world.
    do you feel the same way about far right wing American extremism that is allowed to fester and grow anywhere in the world? If not, you are a hypocrite.
    As to promoting american values on the world, whats the matter Paul? don’t like America?
    I like what America is supposed to be, not the nation it is today—-a nation that places so little value on the lives of non-Americans that it has slaughtered tens of thousands of Muslims on completely (and, to the rest of the world, obviously) false pretenses. Your acceptance of the slaughter and carnage undertaken by the Bush administration—your double standard when it comes to innocents slaughtered at the behest of Bush and bin Laden—shows me that “bigot” and “scumbag” are wholly appropriate terms for you.

  • http://www.humanfirstthenproudiranian.blogspot.com/ Faramin

    Well said p.lukasiak,

  • Kat

    Paul Lukasiak is a freaking Osamamite–he pukes the same crap as Osama does. Ambon,Kosovo, Armenia, Sudan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Lebanon ,Kashmir, Philippines,
    Saudi Arabia, Indonesia, Algeria, Bangladesh, Iran – there is hardly a Muslim country that is not plagued by islamic terrorism,not to mention hardly a non muslim one either. And of course it’s all America’s fault if you are a freaking terrorist and need some excuse to kill thousands of people and then howl like a banshee when they fight back. Jeff is not the scumbag here–it’s the lowlife like Lukasiak and his puppy, Faramin.

  • http://www.buzzmachine.com Jeff Jarvis

    Faramin & Paul… a match made in… HELL.

  • Terry

    Paul Luk…
    The millions who died in the Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with America.
    The mass murder happening right now in Sudan, where the Arab Moslem regime is massacring its black Christian citizens, has nothing to do with America.
    The frequent reports from Algeria about the murders of hundreds of civilian in one village or another by other Algerians have nothing to do with America.
    Saddam Hussein did not invade Kuwait, endangered Saudi Arabia and butchered his own people because of America.
    Egypt did not use poison gas against Yemen in the 60

  • Faramin

    Whatever Jeff, whatever!
    Being in my hell with decency is better than living in your heaven with indecency.
    I like what America is supposed to be, not the nation it is today—-a nation that places so little value on the lives of non-Americans that it has slaughtered tens of thousands of Muslims on completely (and, to the rest of the world, obviously) false pretenses
    Does this true and humane statement bother you, the “ethical journalist”, so much? If America is in a deep sh*t as it is now, it is because of people like you and the lies you have made your people swallow. I’m glad you don’t like me Jeff. It’s because if you did, something would be wrong with me. Yeah, Kat and Kat’s alikes are what you are defined with and no more.
    Terry,
    The millions who died in the Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with America.
    It had every thing to do with America. That is so obvious that your ignorance of it is surprising.

  • tonynoboloney

    great post Terry, its good to see an intellegent voice of reason in these blogs. I am so tired of the HATERS, who only bitch whine and complain but offer no solutions.

  • Terry

    Faramin – Your answer is typical – “It had every thing to do with America” because you say so… I am most certainly not ignorant of the facts. Hussein *started* that war for his own reasons. The US was closer to Iraq certainly at the time Saddam started the war. But the relationship soured after that eventually of course leading to Gulf war I, after Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait. The US supplied arms to Iraq as part of the ongoing relationship that existed prior to the war. That does not mean it was all the fault of the US. Had Hussein not wanted to wage war against Iran, the war would not have occurred – regardless of what the US wanted. And don’t try to play coy with us – nations have relationships that are in many cases useful, but not pretty. The relationship between the US and Iraq prior to the war with Iran served purposes for both nations. Diplomacy is pragmatics disguised by mealy-mouthed rhetoric. But these ugly but useful (if even for a short period) relationships are necessary. If you don’t know that, then you should…
    What about my other points? And, as I suspect you know, there are sadly many more examples of Muslim upon Muslim and Arab upon Arab violence.

  • Terry

    Faramin – Your answer is typical – “It had every thing to do with America” because you say so… I am most certainly not ignorant of the facts. Hussein *started* that war for his own reasons. The US was closer to Iraq certainly at the time Saddam started the war. But the relationship soured after that eventually of course leading to Gulf war I, after Saddam’s invasion of Kuwait. The US supplied arms to Iraq as part of the ongoing relationship that existed prior to the war. That does not mean it was all the fault of the US. Had Hussein not wanted to wage war against Iran, the war would not have occurred – regardless of what the US wanted. And don’t try to play coy with us – nations have relationships that are in many cases useful, but not pretty. The relationship between the US and Iraq prior to the war with Iran served purposes for both nations. Diplomacy is pragmatics disguised by mealy-mouthed rhetoric. But these ugly but useful (if even for a short period) relationships are necessary. If you don’t know that, then you should…
    What about my other points? And, as I suspect you know, there are sadly many more examples of Muslim upon Muslim and Arab upon Arab violence.

  • Terry

    tonynoboloney – thanks and I agree with your sentiments completely.
    Also, sorry everyone about the double-post above. Rookie move – won’t happen again.

  • Faramin

    Terry,
    The millions who died in the Iran-Iraq war had nothing to do with America….
    ….Saddam Hussein did not invade Kuwait, endangered Saudi Arabia and butchered his own people because of America….
    …The Taliban control of Afghanistan and the civil war there had nothing to do with America,
    and I could go on and on and on….

    Yeah, there was a car accident yesterday in my street. I’m sure it had nothing to do with America too. So waht? What is the purpose of listing every relavant and irrelevent event of the history? To discredit those who oppose US policies? Cheap shut Terry. AND SO TYPICAL.
    BTW, you are not the first, intentionally or unintentionally, ignorant person on this site who apperently doesn’t know about the crimes of the “great” United States against the humanity. If I don’t get into the details saying that the US did have many things to do with the death of hundreds of thousands of Iranians and Iraqis, is not because I have nothing to back it up. It is just because I have repeated them to many people. I am not your lecturer. You do some research yourself. Oh, no, not from CNN and FOX.
    Having said that, I will touch on a couple of the issues in the long list of “your” facts that you provided before.But let me first give a link to the “glorious” recent US history that will tell you how 6 million people, according to the CIA official in the link, were murdered by the US. Note! It is a CIA official speaking there, not me.
    Let’s continue with Iran/Iraq war and the massacre of the Iraqis by Saddam. Looks like you have completely forgotten that when attacking Iran, when using his chemical weapons on a daily basis against thousands of Iranian soldiers, when chemically attacking the Kurds in Halabjah, Saddam was a body to the US. This link should be a good start for your self-education, with my assistance, of course.
    Oh yeah, Kuwait. You say saddam didn’t invade Kuwait because of America. WRONG! Saddam did inform the US convoy of his intention of invading Kuwait just a couple of days before invasion took place. The reply from the envoy? “This is a regional issue, and we (the US) will not get involved in it”. This was effectively giving green light to Saddam to do whatever the hell he wanted to do. (Could not find the link, but you do your owen howework. I’m sure you will find it, if you want that is).
    And Taliban. Come’n Terry. Taliban were created by the US. Taliban were in power for 6 years, making life misrable for the ordinary Afghan peopleespecially women, and yet, nothing from the US. But as soon as 9/11 occured, Taliban bacame women abusers, human right’s abusers and you name it. They were women abusers from day one.
    Listen Terry! Instead of producing volume in your comment, perhaps you should produce a bit of substance too, and in order to be successful in doing that, you might need to study a bit of history and watch less of Fox news or the CNN.

  • Kat

    Faramin–go watch a movie–this is one about WMD. You will like it. Your heroes are the stars.
    http://www.iraqitruthproject.com/