Shame on The Times, Chapter III

Shame on The Times, Chapter III

: Mohammed of Iraq the Model posts a beautiful reply to Sarah Boxer’s unjournalism in The New York Times:

Sarah Boxer (boxer@nytimes.com) in her latest piece on the NYT tried hard to put together some rotten limbs to produce a creature that satisfies her fantasy but she ended up introducing a new mutant to the readers and to the methods of journalism. It wasn’t a surprise for me as it was just another reproduction of the old ways of the corrupt side of the MSM in dealing with facts and events.

One short look at the “article” shows how na

  • http://www.virtuallounge.net/zblog JZ

    Beautiful is an excellent choice of words to describe that post.

  • Jeff B.

    But you don’t understand, Jeff. He writes too well in English! He’s clearly a CIA plant.
    [/paul]

  • http://donatacom.com/blog.shtml Terry Heaton

    We need a blue-ribbon panel here. No wait, they’d only fire the copy editor.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    But you don’t understand, Jeff. He writes too well in English!
    although his english is suspiciously good, what is even more suspicious is that he simply parrots the right-wing critique of the American media as if he had been exposed to that media for decades.
    In other words, the “voice” in inauthentic.
    Now, that doesn’t mean he’s a “CIA plant.” Maybe there are still Iraqis whose opinion of the US has not changed one IOTA since they were liberated—and who believes that everything the Bush administration does is correct. I mean, there are lots of right-wingers in America who seem to thrive on this kind of cognitive dissonance, so why shouldn’t there be some Iraqis of the same stripe?
    But the lack of authenticity in the voice — the fact that he tells you exactly what you want to hear — suggests that there is something else going on. Maybe his definition of “America is the land of opportunity” is that there are lots of Americans who will send money to him as long as he says the right things.
    And, considering the state of the Iraqi economy right now, if I was one of the Fadhil brothers, and I had Jarvis and his crew in my thrall, I’d be playing it up for all its worth.
    How does one say “PT Barnum” in Arabic?

  • Julie Cleeveley

    I have been reading Iraq the Model since the very first day, and have consistently found the posts to be informative, inspirational and moving.No Westerner born and raised in freedom and democracy could ever write with the passion and hunger for free speech of the three brothers. Joseph Conrad and Vladimir Nabokov also wrote beautifully despite English not being their first language. I wish I could write like any of them. The archives at Iraq the Model are well worth reading through for those who have only recently discovered this wonderful blog.

  • EverKarl

    jeremy from NYC perfectly expresses the opinion of those to follow:
    “Jeff, your overreaction to the NYT article directly ties in to the fact that you defended Howard Stern, which was a mistake (and you wrote “Heward” once when you did it). Bad judgment! Since you wholeheartedly supported the Iraq war disaster (which, given your misunderstanding of the Fantastic Falcons, should come as no surprise), shouldn’t you just call it quits? I mean, you’re just some lone guy with an opinion, not part of a reputable organization, so what do you know?
    As for the ITM brothers, – hey, like CBS said, the essential truths were there. Nothing that was said about them is anywhere near as bad as your “Professor pondscum” remarks. Then again, you ALWAYS mock any intelligent theory with which you disagree (IGNORING the fact that the tsunami was caused by Israel) because you love the evil antichrists Bush and Rove and their criminal gang that kills puppies, invades nations just for their oil and then uses their Halliburton/Carlyle cronies to keep the consumer paying through the nose while they steal the cheap oil. I mean, if you look at the Afghanistan pipeline (which Bush planned BEFORE HE WAS BORN), and the coverup that Bush executed by hiding the protecting his Bin Laden buddies (well not Osama, but you get my drift), it’s clear that the je…uh, Zionists who stayed home on September 11 and got McKinney booted from office and control the media planned the whole thing with Bush and company as co-conspirators.
    (whew)
    YAHTZEE!”
    The rest of y’all should feel free to cut an paste the parts you like to save valuable trolling time.
    paul: Nice work on those memos for CBS.
    Jeff: Are you aware of this?

  • mjinks

    Is it just me or has anyone else out there noticed that ever since their American visit the brothers have developed “an attitude” and some edge in their postings? NYC or LA or both

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    paul: Nice work on those memos for CBS.
    I’m not nearly as bothered by the accusation that I forged documents as I am by the accusation that I produced obviously forged documents.
    Jeff: Are you aware of this?
    yes, little tattletale, Jeff is aware of it. In fact, we’ve had a relatively civil discussion based on it, which you are invited to read at
    http://sandhill.typepad.com/sandhill_trek/2005/01/open_letter_to_.html
    although I must warn you, both Jeff and I use words of more than two syllables in the discussion, so you might want to get mommy to help you with the big ones.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    Is it just me or has anyone else out there noticed that ever since their American visit the brothers have developed “an attitude” and some edge in their postings? NYC or LA or both

  • mjinks

    Ohhh that’s right it was on Martini Re-pubic, the leftist website of truth or was it Jaun Cole?

  • EverKarl

    paul,
    Forged? When did I say that?
    By the way, you’re every bit as charming as I thought you would be.

  • EverKarl

    Also, my prior link was referring to your flagging Jeff’s prior ITM post, which is also the topic here. Interesting that you thought I was referring to something else.

  • jeremy in NYC

    Actually, EverKarl, in all fairness (ack!) I thought the same thing, since it was the first thng on the page. I didn’t even scroll down.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    Also, my prior link was referring to your flagging Jeff’s prior ITM post, which is also the topic here. Interesting that you thought I was referring to something else.
    actually, Karl, you linked to my open letter as it appeared on DailyKos.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    Jeremy is correct… Karl linked to the “bushsux” home page, where the top “diary” entry is an “open letter” and the second diary entry is about Jeff doing his Linda Blair thing because of the Boxer NYT article….

  • EverKarl

    Hey, that’s the page I found it on. Anyone commenting here for a while — on this thread, even — knows that my comments are directed at people who feel compelled to go off-topic, so one can presume that the link would be on-topic. But since jeremy was also confused, it’s good to have it clarified.
    However, I did wonder whether I should be lectured on vocabulary by someone who spells “sucks” with an “x.”

  • jeremy in NYC

    Hey, if he thinx that saying “sux” while throwing verbal rox clarifies his topix, then it worx for me.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    “bushsucks” was already taken

  • EverKarl

    I see; with your enormous vocabulary, you had no alternative.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    “Bushblows” was gone too. (IIRC, “BushBloes” was still there…)
    as was “FuckBush”
    basically, when you enter a progressive community with tens of thousands of members, all the good pseuds have already been taken. I felt lucky that “bushsux” was still available.

  • EverKarl

    I just figured that you would want one with more than two syllables.

  • kat

    God, what mental asylum did you guys escape from?? Or was it a nursery school? A 5 year old couldn’t be more immature with this sux and fux stuff . I know today must be a depressing day for some–take a prosac and have a little nap and then your mommy will warm some milk for you and change your nappy.

  • Eileen

    Perhaps as importantly, I guess Paul’s mommy also didn’t tell him it’s not nice to spread rumors and participate in/initiate smear camgaigns. At Cos he states: “…according to the panel, I was the person who lead 60 Minutes II to the Killian memos when I told Mapes about a rumor that someone had access to additional Bush documents—and I have spoken with Mapes on a number of occasions.” [Where did that rumor come from, about what documents, possessed by whom? Those very same reliable ones used by CBS?] He’s upset the panel didn’t contact him for confirmation, but he certainly touts his ‘involvement’ in a very public way, pointing out his name is mentioned in the report Three Times – wow – a fact which must be pretty impressive in some quarters. He also doesn’t deny the truth of the panel’s statements about Him, other than the fact he’s not a ‘blogger’.
    Which brings me to his efforts here, at Cos, his web site and God knows where else, to impugn not only the President, but Real bloggers like our host and ITM.
    This is Exactly The Kind Of Guy I know I’d consider to be a reliable judge regarding matters of not only ethical standards and conduct, but also ‘authenticity’.

  • Eileen

    Of course, there’s always the possibility our Paulie is making all these ‘appearances’ in big media, panel ‘print’, on the web and all, because he’s:
    “4) doing everything in his power to become famous enough to eventually write a book that will be published by Regnery and get on the Times best seller list because Scaife buy thousands upon thousands of copies…”
    How about “Ratgate, an Autobiography”?

  • Kat

    Eileen, you are so smart. Your post made me do some searching. Interesting.
    http://redstate.org/comments/2004/9/10/135321/013/5

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    oh my….next thing I know, you will be revealing that I’m gay!
    The reason I mentioned that I was mentioned three times in the “memogate report” was because I wanted people to know what a shoddy and unethical job they did. One would think that an investigation of the memos would, at the very least, make an effort to speak to the person they identify as being the first link in the short chain to the memos themselves. One would also think that such a report would do some fact-checking before it was released. But neither thing ever happened.

  • kat

    I read that they concluded you and some Linda Starr were some kind of loose cannon lunatics and that was why you weren’t interviewed. Reading some of your stuff makes me believe that they were right–Citizen Paul. Bwahaha.

  • http://ancapistan.typepad.com/ tex

    Here’s the post I promised you.
    The Betrayal of the “Iraq the Model” Bloggers

  • Eileen

    Thanks, Kat. This one’s also revealing and current, with quotes from the panel report: http://wizbangblog.com/archives/004756.php
    It would probably also be interesting to track “Lechliter”.
    I guess Mapes was looking for some ‘reliable sources’, kind of like Boxer did. Gee, they must all exchange their favorite left wing blogger sites to manufacture their ‘stories’ at the spa, while sipping lattes and having a good yuk about the stupid public they ‘serve’…
    Oh, another small point? Note Paul stated he’s NOT a ‘blogger’ at Cos. And yet there’s his GLCQ/AWOL and God knows what else….
    Oh yeah. Imagine if MSM’s little house of leftie cards came down due to the rats getting caught in their own self-constructed, yet oh-so-simple, maze.
    Volunteers for some investigation here?
    Yes, it ties in with the current thread, and many threads of our media controlled lives.
    But hey, ‘Paulie’s right here right now. How about you tell us, Paulie, the names of all the names you’ve used or are currently using, the names of all your web sites, how it is you knew Linda Starr had information about those documents (haven’t bothered to get to her site, yet, to see if it was ‘transparent’ there), and, and, and…???
    Hmmmmmm, Paulie?
    It’s really not all that ‘a-maze-ing’ or even surprising if you consider the same ‘ole, same ‘ole crap we’re fed daily by the leftie club.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    But hey, ‘Paulie’s right here right now. How about you tell us, Paulie, the names of all the names you’ve used or are currently using, the names of all your web sites, how it is you knew Linda Starr had information about those documents (haven’t bothered to get to her site, yet, to see if it was ‘transparent’ there), and, and, and…???
    other names? lots of variations on my own name, based on the requirements of the website in question.
    bushsux is probably the pseud I’ve used most. But I’ve also used stuff like “mynewpsued” (that’s what I signed up with at yahoo games when I forgot my original sign in name) and variations on that theme (I’m “yourname” anywhere that no one else has grabbed it.)
    Re: How I heard about the rumor…that was off the record when I told CBS about the rumor, and will stay off the record. sorry.
    I’m perfectly willing to be transparent about who I am and what I do. But the point is that I’ve never asked anyone to consider me to be credible — I collected information that was relevant to Bush’s records, analysed it, published my conclusions, but provided everything that I had collected on a web site so that anyone could challenge my conclusions without having to do all of the “legwork” I did in gathering the documents.
    I didn’t give “on the record” interviews because I wasn’t a story, and my conclusions weren’t a story—the facts were the story. And I paid for my website out of my own pocket, paid all expenses associated with my research from my own pocket, and took not one penny from anyone even though I was offered financial support (not by anyone important, btw.)
    I’m just some guy from Philadelphia, and I don’t pretend to be anything else.
    But it is disturbing to see the extent to which some people will go to try and hurt my reputation… all I did was uncover some facts. The reaction to the establishment of facts by those who hate facts that contradict their opinions is, well, disturbing.

  • kat

    Facts, my ass, you and Michael Moore wouldn’t know a fact if your life depended on it.
    It is leftist lunatics like yourself who give all Democrats a bad name. I bet you belong to ANSWER. Bunch of idiots in tinfoil hats.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    Facts, my ass, you and Michael Moore wouldn’t know a fact if your life depended on it.

    feel free to find something on my site that I have stated as a fact that is wrong, and I’ll change it.
    (note that this is the same challenge I gave to all of the “hate mail” i got…and no one ever came back with anything I got wrong.)

  • Eileen

    “Re: How I heard about the rumor…that was off the record when I told CBS about the rumor, and will stay off the record. sorry.”
    Laughing all the way. I’ll just BET it will, and I’ll just BET you are.
    From page 59 of the CBS Panel Report: “On Monday, August 23, Mapes learned that Lieutenant Colonel Burkett was rumored to have important documents regarding the President’s TexANG service. Paul Lukasiak, who operates a website on which he posts disparaging analyses of President Bush’s TexANG service, told Mapes that another blogger, Linda Starr, had seen new TexANG documents regarding President Bush. Starr hosts a website that recently contained the slogan, “Bush lied, Americans died,” and is the editor of Online Journal, an online newsletter often critical of President Bush.
    Mapes contacted Starr, who responded that she believed that Lieutenant Colonel Burkett had a two-page, classified document regarding President Bush’s TexANG service, and Starr speculated that it might be a disciplinary report. This disciplinary report…”
    Bringing down a president, now that’s no big deal for someone like you, eh? Bringing down a highly visible media guy with a Big Blog who supports a few Iraqi’s and questions another media story, that would work for you too, eh? How about bringing down some Iraqi’s who actually speak the TRUTH about the war and their futures – unless big media can frame them as CIA plants to ‘silence them’, right? Yeah, that would work for you, too. BIG Media types like Mapes and Boxers going to people like you to find their constructed, fabricated ‘stories’? Yeah, that fits, too.
    And you have the Audacity to post ‘open letters’ trying to smear Jeff’s ethics and integrity across the web immediately before a conference on the same, and to call the ITM brothers unauthentic?
    “I’m just some guy from Philadelphia, and I don’t pretend to be anything else.” Right, Paulie boy. Backpeddle as fast as you possibly can.
    Rats ruin their own reputations.

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    How about bringing down some Iraqi’s who actually speak the TRUTH about the war and their futures – unless big media can frame them as CIA plants to ‘silence them’, right
    I don’t think they are CIA plants.
    I do suspect that they know a “mark” when they see one….

  • EverKarl

    You suspect that… whatever that is. Get back to us when you actually have an accusation and some properly authenticated evidence to back it up.

  • Eileen

    Frankly, I don’t give a rat’s ass what you or your other cozy little media ‘creating’ club members ‘believe’, or try to shove down the rest of our throats.
    MSM ‘news’ as we’ve known it? Mostly fiction, leftist-agenda-driven fiction. What they’ve tried to force feed me never did taste ‘good’, or even quite right. Surprise, surprise.
    Well Paulie, when you want to discuss how you ‘learned’ about that ‘rumor’ and from whom, why don’t you contact me? My name and email address are real. I’ll do a nice little interview, add some research, and you might end up with your day in the sun, instead of burrowing even deeper into your deep, dark, rathole. Nah. You do your own story about the TRUTH. You can have that book title I gave you. And I’m sure the entire process would be cathartic for you.
    How well do you sleep these days?

  • http://www.glcq.com paul_lukasiak

    You suspect that… whatever that is.
    Here is what I know. In the last year, more than $7300 has been sent to them in cash. This is in addition to “in kind” contributions of computer equipment, bandwidth, and such (and lets not forget their airfare and accomodations for their visit to the USA.)
    All three brothers are professionals, and to hear them tell it, thanks to the occupation that are far, far, better off economically than they were before the invasion even without the infusion of right-wing cash. This, of course, doesn’t include all of the money ($8,000 on Dec 20 alone) sent to what is apparently their own private political party, IDPD.
    Quite frankly, if they weren’t hustling you people, they’d be saying “we have what we need to continue you to blog, give your money to Iraqi children”.

  • EverKarl

    Oh, they are accepting donations from people who support what they’re doing and not demanding that it go to Iraqi children. Well, that is terrible. You characterize the money as right-wing without any supporting evidence. You’ve provided nothing to suggest any sort of fraud or “hustle.” To the contrary, you note that they apparently are better off economically after the invasion without the donations. By your logic, The Nation the and Democratic Party are “hustles” because they aren’t returning their income and demanding that people donate the money to the local homeless shelter or food bank.
    As noted above, get back to us when you actually have an accusation and some properly authenticated evidence to back it up.

  • http://bushout.blogspot.com gandhi

    I have posted a lengthy expose of the Fadhil brothers’ blogs at Iraq The Model and Free Iraqi.
    See here for details.
    This includes further discussion of their links to Spirit Of America and Cyber Century Forum.