The names

The names

: Yad Vashem has put the names of more than 3 million victims of the Holocaust online. [via TimesOnline]

  • http://maxniederhofer.com Max Niederhofer

    There are people with our family name there. People I had never heard about.

  • Miguel

    How about the names of hundreds of thousands of innocent Palestinians that Israelis have murdered, the better to steal their land?

  • deby

    Miguel,
    I won’t even address the absurd attempt at moral equivalency you propound. I will say, if you want the names of the “hundreds of thousands on innocent Palistinians” posted, then post them. No one is stopping you.
    (Why do I have a feeling you aren’t really serious, but just trying to provoke?)

  • Franky

    Miguel,
    That type of comment does no help to the Palestinian cause and is a pretty disgraceful thing to have as comments attached to your name. There is no connection between the holocuast and what’s going on in Israel right now.
    And a final question, when you list the names of all the Palestinians who have been killed in the occupation of Palestinian lands, how will you respond when someone demands of you that you list the names of all the Jews murdered in the holocaust?
    Moving on, my problem with the site and much of the current holocaust interest is that it focuses on it as a purely Jewish persecution. It would be nice if all had tried to cross the ethnic boundaries and included all those who perished in the camps, with gays and gypsies targetted just as much as jews, let alone communists and trade union members. I find that all these groups seemed to be mentioned of as an afterthought if spoken of at all (in fact I suspect that many jews today feel slightly ashamed that communists died by the sides of jews as if somehow it associates them with communists – not really surprising in the time when Ann Coulter is allowed to speak on tv without a muzzle).

  • Faramin

    Franky,
    I don’t think what Miguel says is out of disrespect for the Jewish victims of the Nazis. Perhaps, Miguel is pointing out to the continues double standards is reporting some human sufferings, and not reporting others or even practically condoning the other sufferings.
    If this is what Miguel means, IT IS JUST TRUE.

  • Franky

    Faramin,
    I’m sure it is not out of disrespect, but it’s even worse because it’s irrelevant. Miguel would’ve had a point if he had made the same comments regarding how many Israelis have died during the intifada. But he didn’t, he made it about the holocaust which has nothing to do with how many palestinians have died.
    I pose the same question to you: if you were to post a list of all the palestinians killed in the intifada, how would you respond to someone demanding you publish the names of the jews murdered in the Russian pogroms?

  • Faramin

    Franky,
    I would perhaps respond the same way you are responding now; and I agree, irrelevant is irrelevant.
    However, I still see Miguel’s comment symbolic as a reminder, only a reminder, of the double standards. Perhaps, Miguel himself can say more about this.

  • Jim S

    The Nazis did persecute other groups besides the Jews, but they were the majority. Somehow this seemed to be the slap in the face to Europeans and their American descendants when it came to the persecution of Jews, though. It had been going on for centuries throughout Europe and Russia, though. We’ll never know how many were killed during it all. I think it was in a sense the accumulation of all of it that really led to Western support for the establishment of Israel.