‘The lesser of two risks’

‘The lesser of two risks’

: Andrew Sullivan writes the endorsement he thought he’d never write: for John Kerry.

The phrase “lesser of two evils” often comes up at this time every four years, but this November, I think, it’s too cynical a formula. Neither George W. Bush nor John Kerry can be credibly described as “evils.” They have their faults, some of which are glaring. They are both second-tier politicians, thrust into the spotlight at a time when we desperately need those in the first circle of talent and vision. But they are not evil. When the papers carry pictures of 50 Iraqi recruits gunned down in a serried row, as Stalin and Hitler did to their enemies, we need have no doubt where the true evil lies. The question before us, first and foremost, is which candidate is best suited to confront this evil in the next four years. In other words: Who is the lesser of two risks?…

So we have two risks. We have the risk of continuing with a presidency of palpable incompetence and rigidity. And we have the risk of embarking on a new administration with a man whose record as a legislator inspires little confidence in his capacity to rise to the challenges ahead. Which is the greater one?…

This is how I, too, compute Kerry’s stand on the issues that matter most to me:

Kerry has said again and again that he will not hesitate to defend this country and go on the offensive against Al Qaeda. I see no reason whatsoever why he shouldn’t. What is there to gain from failure in this task? He knows that if he lets his guard down and if terrorists strike or succeed anywhere, he runs the risk of discrediting the Democrats as a party of national security for a generation. He has said quite clearly that he will not “cut and run” in Iraq. And the truth is: He cannot. There is no alternative to seeing the war through in Iraq.

Damn, I hope we’re right about that.

  • http://www.musingsofafatkid.blogspot.com fat kid

    And if you’re wrong?

  • Jeffrey — New York

    Jeff,
    If Kerry had been president, Saddam would still be in power and “grooming” Uday and Qusay to take over in a few years. Omar, Ali, Omar, Zeyad, Alaa, Sam, and AYS — we would never have known these courageous Iraqis.
    I cannot put into words the depth of my disappointment with your choice of Kerry for president. It’s like spitting on our new Iraqi friends. You really need to look in the mirror.
    And there hasn’t been another terrorist attack in the US since 9/11. I guess Bush gets no credit for that?
    You and Andrew Sullivan are shameless cowards. I’m sorry, but that’s how I feel as a Democrat who has seen my party devolve into a pathetic knee-jerk party. I will be voting for Bush next Tuesday.
    You still have time to reconsider.
    *

  • Mike

    Sullivan is kidding himself. He only came to this position after Bush came out against gay marriage. He was so enraged by that one decision that it crept into his feelings on everything else. If Bush didn’t float the idea of a Federal Marriage Amendment, Sullivan would be writing about how this country needs GWB in this time of war.

  • http://chrisholland.blogspot.com/ chris holland

    Jeff, I was wondering if you’d be willing to look at a post i made on iraq over at my blog. search for “opacity“.
    I tried to elaborate a bit more on another’s blogger’s comments section.
    Looking back, i’m starting to think i’m speculating too much, or looking too far ahead, and that, for now, Kerry just might do the trick by bringing a measure of fiscal responsibility in the picture.
    any thoughts you could give me would help greatly. I have not yet made a final decision :(

  • http://chrisholland.blogspot.com/ chris holland

    Jeff, I was wondering if you’d be willing to look at a post i made on iraq over at my blog. search for “opacity“.
    I tried to elaborate a bit more on another’s blogger’s comments section.
    Looking back, i’m starting to think i’m speculating too much, or looking too far ahead, and that, for now, Kerry just might do the trick by bringing a measure of fiscal responsibility in the picture.
    any thoughts you could give me would help greatly. I have not yet made a final decision :(

  • Slip Pickeral

    I’ll vote for Bush if you can give me a clear explanation as to why we have failed so catastrophically in executing the Iraq War
    and Occupation and how he will correct it if given a second term.
    Explain why we needed to topple a secular dictatorship that was not even close to having nukes and was largely unsuccessful in
    establishing ties to terrorism (Iraq), instead of an Islamic Theocracy that actively and openly funds terrorism and pursues nukes (Iran).
    This is especially pertinent because Iran was 2nd on the Axis Of Evil and yet we have done nothing.
    Explain why we have not slit the throats of every single member of the Saudi Royal Family.
    Explain why, in a time of war, the President of the United States (whose job description is Commander In Chief of the Armed Forces)
    is bothering to even mention gay marriage and steroid drug abuse.
    John Kerry is worthless and will do nothing for America, but Bush is a proven failure.
    The current situation is a result of unfettered Republican power, you control all three branches of government and this is what you have achieved.
    I’ll take my chances with the incompetent pacifist over the incompetent militarist.

  • keith

    “Damn, I hope we’re right about that.”
    This is what you are voting on. How can I respect this? I can’t.
    At least I know what Bush is about and I am sure of that.
    This is so amazing that I am without words to describe it.

  • Jesse

    It’s not good enough to pick a candidate just because you feel you know what he is “about”. Does that automatically make what he is “about” the right path?

  • Angelos

    Some people took George Bush on his words in 2000, and look where it’s gotten us. Nothing in this country is better than it was four years ago.
    Hell, his whole campaign is based on all the things he’d do if he were president! Like he didn’t already have four years to try some of them out.
    I’ll take Kerry at his word for the next four years. We can always boot him too.
    Unlike the “reality-making” civilians who have run this war like a marketing campaign, Kerry has experience. He knows how shitty war is. That doesn’t mean he would back down from protecting this country.
    If you buy that Bush campaign line, you have some serious issues with your ability to think for yourself. But that’s what the BC campaign is based on. Keep the bible-thumpers and other non-thinkers in the fold, and hope to sway a few more with lies.

  • marc

    “He has said quite clearly that he will not “cut and run” in Iraq. And the truth is: He cannot. There is no alternative to seeing the war through in Iraq.”
    Really? That is exactly what he did in Vietnam after just 4 months!
    So, Kerry lied about being in Cambodia but that is ok with you because it happened a long time ago.
    Recently Kerry lied about meeting with the UN Security council but your ok with that to.
    Saddam invaded Kuwait and the UN, “the global test”, voted for war while Kerry failed the global test and voted against the war. But your ok with that to.
    I could go on and on but you have already made up your mind.
    How anyone could vote for Kerry is beyond me. All Kerry has is “plans” with no specifics and no record to go on. He did nothing in the Senate for 20 years except to vote against security measures.
    I truly, truly, feel sorry for you and all who vote for Kerry. I pray to God Bush wins.

  • Wayne Moore

    You and Andrew are definitely not right on this, but don’t worry because an additional Kerry vote in NY and DC will not affect the outcome. We have your mistake covered.

  • Cog

    Kerry was a major factor in not only losing the Vietnam war, but also in accelerating our defeat. Nothing in his campaign, his 20 year senate career, his service, and his anti-war campaign have convinced me he would fare any better either in the war on terror, or in the war in Iraq.
    Bush has Cog’s endorsement. And if you can not stomach a vote for either canidate or Nader, then write in a vote for McCain.

  • Greg Hughes

    I was going to vote for Kerry because I have had 4 years to see what Bush is about – incompetence, religious zealotry, corporate welfare. To that list I can add that a Kerry victory will make some of the drama queens around here miserable.

  • http://www.hfienberg.com/kesher/ Yehudit

    “Kerry has said again and again that he will not hesitate to defend this country and go on the offensive against Al Qaeda. I see no reason whatsoever why he shouldn’t.”
    Kerry’s idea of what “offense” is has nothing to do with consensual reality. All I need to know is that in his acceptance speech before the entire nation he said “he will not hesitate to defend the US IF attacked again,” and that no one in the DNC helping him write his speech, or after, thought this was a troublesome statement.
    Apparently you don’t either.
    Kerry had no problem cutting and running in Vietnam, contributing to millions of boat people refugees and incarcerations in re-education camps. The Vietnamese American community is voting overwhelmingly for Bush.
    Millions of Iraqis and Afghanis came home after their countries were liberated, and only a trickle has left since. I pray that after Kerry’s policies take effect there will not be millions of refugees streaming out of Iraq and Afghanistan when Iran and Al Queda moves in.
    Everything in Kerry’s history says that he has no convictions and is lazy and believes the UN and its ilk should have authority over the US. EVERYTHING in his history. Your belief in him has no basis in fact, and is contradicted by other statements of his during this campaign. You are cherry-picking the things Kerry has said that reassure you, while ignoring the much greater evidence that should not reassure you.
    No Kerry supporter – you, Sullivan, Oxblog – has made any credible case for him which takes his history into account; it’s all wishful thinking. I used to wonder how smart aware middle-class Jews in Europe in the 30s could cling to their illusions – in the face of all the evidence – that Hitler just couldn’t be that bad. Now I know.

  • http://lonewacko.com The Lonewacko Blog

    And there hasn’t been another terrorist attack in the US since 9/11.
    That’s not the correct metric. There were no terror attacks in the three years before 9/11.
    The correct metric is, “has Bush done all he could to reduce the possibility of a future attack?”
    Bush allows thousands of people to cross our borders each day. He could greatly reduce that flow and make the job of the Border Patrol greatly easier. He has not. He has apparently decided that cheap labor is more important than our safety.
    The 9/11 Commission Staff Report went into great detail on how terrorists have gamed our immigration system in the past to come here and stay here. There is no indication that Bush has taken that report to heart and decided to prevent future terrorists from doing the same thing.
    The loss of 380 tons of high explosives provides yet another example of Bush’s incompetence. (Note: see this before replying.) Invading Iraq as Bush did resulted in a huge amount of conventional weapons being given to terrorists or enemy countries. There were certainly good arguments for invading Iraq. However, the way Bush did it may have done more harm than good. Iraq had the fourth largest weapons stockpile in the world. Where is it now? (See also Seven Nuclear Sites Looted)
    And, consider the flu vaccine shortage. As I point out here, the FDA knew there were problems at the Liverpool plant, but they did not inspect it in all of 2004. How absolutely incompetent is that? The bottom line: the shortage will cost around an additional $10 billion in lost productivity and hundreds or thousands of deaths.
    My suggestion: conservatives should vote for Kerry but vote Republican for almost everyone else except Bush. Then, make sure that Kerry governs as a centrist and is a hawk – but an intelligent one – on the WOT.

  • http://www.hfienberg.com/kesher/ Yehudit

    “an additional Kerry vote in NY and DC will not affect the outcome.”
    Unfortunately Jeff votes in NJ. But Sullivan isn’t a citizen and is not voting.

  • pumpkin

    I believe Sullivan is a naturalized citizen of the USA.

  • http://www.joelblain.com Joel

    Jeff, how can some one who survived 9/11 by a matter of inches & feet feel this way? Kerry is weak on defense and has been for scaling down the military since the early 80′s!
    Showing weakness by electing Kerry does nothing but embolden our enemies! How can Kerry win a war he doesn’t even know (or won’t acknowledge) is being waged?

  • http://www.joelblain.com Joel

    Jeff, how can some one who survived 9/11 by a matter of inches & feet feel this way? Kerry is weak on defense and has been for scaling down the military since the early 80′s!
    Showing weakness by electing Kerry does nothing but embolden our enemies! How can Kerry win a war he doesn’t even know (or won’t acknowledge) is being waged?

  • Angelos

    “Kerry was a major factor in not only losing the Vietnam war, but also in accelerating our defeat.”
    What?!?!
    Please explain this one to me. I need a good laugh.

  • Cog

    “Please explain this one to me. I need a good laugh.”
    Actually there are some memos from the Viet Cong and the North Vietnamese that were released today that should explain my comment for you.
    Feel free to laugh anyway moron.

  • Richard Aubrey

    Cog, Angelos & JJ & others think the Viet Nam ending was a tremendous victory and are quick to take credit for it–under certain circumstances. Now is not one of them, but if Kerry wins, they’ll be back at it.

  • Angelos

    Actually, unless I’m reading some numbnuts accuse Kerry of losing a whole war, I don’t think of Vietnam at all.
    We lost all right, but not because one man (OK, millions of people) came to oppose the war.
    I know, I know, opposing war is so “liberal.” A good Bush voter ain’t happy unless he’s killing someone of a different color.

  • Jesse

    “Showing weakness by electing Kerry does nothing but embolden our enemies!”
    Wow, someone’s been watching too many cheesey wolf commercials. You really DO believe everything that the president says in his speeches… scary…

  • Cog

    No one said he lost the whole war. Try making a single statement without mischaracterizing or lying about someone elses position.
    Read the memos that broke today from the North Vietnamese and the Viet Cong. Read the memos before criticizing someone else, and then feel free to characterize their statements on Kerry for me. Feel free to tell me his actions were not considered by the NV and VC to be a major factor in their attempt to win the war.
    I will have a good laugh at your attempts to mischaracterize those statements. “Numbnuts”? I would think that would perfectly describe someone arguing about documents he has not read.

  • werner

    Ok, Slip, I bet you didn

  • Guy

    Jeffrey — New York wrote:
    I cannot put into words the depth of my disappointment with your choice of Kerry for president. It’s like spitting on our new Iraqi friends.
    Some of our “new Iraqi friends”, including the very brave Prime Minister Allawi, are spitting at us.

  • http://www.musingsofafatkid.blogspot.com fat kid

    A good Bush voter ain’t happy unless he’s killing someone of a different color.

    Way to slander about 130,000,000 people in 13 words. Brilliant. If that’s all you have to offer, I’m voting for Bush. :)

  • http://blogs.rny.com/sbw/ sbw

    Counterposted on Janegalt.com:
    At the end of “Charade”, Peter Joshua (Cary Grant) stands on one side, Carson Dial (Walter Matthau) on the other and Audrey Hepburn doesn’t know who to trust… Which way to turn…
    Hepburn pleads for Joshua to tell her why she should trust him. He replies, “I can’t think of a single reason.” Hepburn turns to Joshua.
    Bush made mistakes but he really didn’t lie about them. He believed what he was told. Recognized risk. Acted on it.
    To listen to Kerry, every problem since Wonder Bread was caused by the Bush administration. Not only that, he, Kerry, has the answer and it won’t cost you a thing.
    He sounds like someone so desperate to be elected, he’d say anything. “Yeah, that’s the ticket.” Is the Kerry campaign is lying to the American people just to win the election or are they simply deluded. Which would be worse?
    So when, like Audrey Hepburn, you turn, which candidate do you want to face?

  • NashvilleCat

    Yeah, that’s it for me. I’m deleting Buzzmachine from my “Favorites” file – Andrew Sullivan was deleted quite some time ago. Sorry, but your intellectual dishonesty just astounds me. Also, the remark about Bush supporters not being happy unless they’re killing brown people – that’s why I will be voting for President Bush, because Kerry has supporters such as this.

  • Cog

    Translations of the Kerry North Vietnamese and Viet Cong documents. Sounds like references to a future commander in chief to me.
    http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=vccircular
    http://ice.he.net/~freepnet/kerry/staticpages/index.php?page=vcdirective
    Oh, and the Kerry campaign released new documents about the Bush national guard story. Maybe CBS can authenticate them and make up for the explosive story they lost for 60 minutes.

  • ali

    “A good Bush voter ain’t happy unless he’s killing someone of a different color.”
    Oh. My. God. Most offensive comment ever.

  • http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2I1RJP9SCFKX7 The Sanity Inspector

    Jeff, the problem is that Kerry’s record belies his promises. I don’t want someone who gets electric shocks from his inner peacenik to be in charged of American security. You know all the objections everyone’s made re Kerry’s national defense softness. How can you bull ahead with the stubborn hope that this time he’ll surely stick up for America first?

  • Brian H
  • MWB

    Among those who will celebrate if Bush is defeated:
    Fidel Castro
    Yassir Arafat
    Kim Jong Il
    Jacques Chirac
    UN Oil-for-Food corruption beneficiaries
    Everyone who danced in the streets on 9/11
    Ted Rall
    Michael Moore
    The Bush=Hitler crowd
    Everyone but the victims in the beheading videos…
    A flea collar might be a good purchase, Jeff.

  • gawdamman

    Yea, right…..I’m going to vote for a traitor because some gay dude says he’s less of a risk! Andrew’s HIV proves he’s not so hot at evaluating risk.

  • George

    The missing weapons situation is much worse than initially feared:
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/10/26/iraq_weapons_caches/index_np.html

  • http://www.joelblain.com Joel

    “Wow, someone’s been watching too many cheesey wolf commercials. You really DO believe everything that the president says in his speeches… scary…”
    Part of me hopes Kerry is elected and NY or other major cities are utterly devastated by terrorists. No tears then, you stupid bastards deserve it.

  • Tiny

    “Part of me hopes Kerry is elected and NY or other major cities are utterly devastated by terrorists. No tears then, you stupid bastards deserve it.”
    Joel, can you at least TRY to appear civilized? Based on that comment you have issues that go way beyond this election, and you clearly need help. Please seek help, and please refrain from posting that sort of hateful garbage.

  • http://lonewacko.com The Lonewacko Blog

    As far as Bush keeping you safe is concerned, see Internal DHS/LA County memos on gangs and terror revealed.
    So, Bush is keeping us safe. Except when he’s giving terrorists the opportunity to infiltrate the U.S.

  • Anonymous

    Wow, why even attempt an original post. Just copy and paste from Kos and Atrios if all you want to do is stir up Bush hatred.

  • Ganjulama

    “Explain why we have not slit the throats of every single member of the Saudi Royal Family.” Well, because the USA is (hopefully) civilized and governed by the rule of law. If ANYBODY deserved to have his throat cut, it was Saddam, but we DON’T DO THAT. The House of Saud is not one of my favorite world governments, but for Pete’s sake, get a grip.

  • Tom

    Jeff
    God Bless you. I know it was a tough decision. After your paradigm changing experience on 911, you had a tough decision to remain with your party. I hope to god you are right, especially if Kerry is elected.
    All I know is that I can not envision Kerry being a leader. And as you have intimated, what we need in war are leaders.
    I will be voting for our President, and I hope you will reconsider your vote.

  • mary

    Jeff,
    I found your blog after finding a reference to you on Zeyad’s blog. I find the Iraqi blogs make fascinating reading and I wanted to thank you for helping to make them a possibility.
    Regarding the debate that is raging in the comment sections, neither side wins any points for civility as both seem to have an equal number of nitwits. I will say this though about the Bush supporters, they seem much more likely to make their points with supporting links. After the CBS memo fiasco, I am inclined to do some of my own research before coming to a conclusion and tend to appreciate comments that includes some links so I can double check the points being made. I wish people would tone down the accusations and concentrate a little bit more on the facts.
    Regarding Iraq, while the situation may not be “good,” most of the Iraqi bloggers are expressing hope for their futures for the first time in their lives. I’m not sure if Kerry had been president what would have become of them, but I doubt their futures would be as bright as what has been done under a Bush Administration.
    mary

  • http://www.blogadise.com Chris

    I know Bush is “uhm” less than brilliant. I know Kerry is an over-achiever.
    Which one would you want in command of the worlds largest economy? A lackwit or a wonk? those are your choices.
    I’ll take my chances with the guy that can spell, read, write, and think, over the guy that says he gets his mandates from god.

  • Ron

    WAKE UP PEOPLE! BUSH HAS LIED TO ALL OF US! REPEATEDLY! WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?! WHY ARE YOU OK WITH BEING LIED TO??????

  • Mike

    Another $87billion requested for next year to be spent in Iraq? Hey Dubya, stop picking apart my paycheck to pay for your fictitious war.

  • Lee

    pumpkin, sully in his own words:
    “2004 vote: I can

  • http://fairwhether.blogspot.com brandon davis

    Tiny?
    Sorry dude, but I got busy today. No time to play. I hate leaving the table without giving someone the last opportunity, but ….
    And …Pops went in for surgery today (colon cancer, he’s okay), so the rest of the week is taken up, too.
    And. Finally. I dunno that I’ll be back either (read the latter bit for an explanation). Too bad: I’ve still got TWO comments that I didn’t post here, too.
    I rarely comment (anywhere), but I’m regular on Beldar, Q&O, Roger Simon & a few others …if you’d like a chance to whack back. Do. Heh.
    —————-
    Jeff? – After the Wolcott & this and the Sullivan post, I finally saw the writer, & the businessman. Snarky. Different face then what I’ve been reading for …what? – three months now, maybe?
    Now, NO complaints here about someone making a buck. Or whatever. (Unless they’re a criminally incompetent used car salesman.)
    (…can’t stand the used car salesmen. H*ll, car salesmen, period.)
    But I REALLY don’t like to be bs’d to (well I don’t mind if it’s all good clean name-calling, like with Tiny …and to a MUCH lesser extent Angelos), and I see I Have Been Had.
    What an appalling lack of sincerity.
    And YOU lecture US on “…people you can convince”? Whoa. Tongue-in-cheeky, aren’t we?
    Not nice at all. Clueless, really.
    “Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice …” ya-da, ya-da.
    Fuggidaboutit. Out’a here dude. Too many honest waters to swim in. Wish it had been real.
    …save ya the effort …already read the rejoinder “…won’t be missed. Not one bit”. No prob’.
    Mega-dittos, JJ.

  • http://www.hfienberg.com/kesher/ Yehudit
  • HA

    Jeff,
    Damn, I hope we’re right about that.
    In other words, you’re going to vote for Kerry on a wish and a prayer. Kerry’s campaign has been all over the map on the the war. There is no evidentiary basis WHATSOEVER either in Kerry’s campaign or his public record since Vietnam for you to conclude that Kerry will see the war through. On the contrary, every shred of evidence in his record in public life is screaming that he will cut and run.
    Although you and Sulli have deluded yourselves into believing that there is no choice but to stay the course, that is in fact NOT the case. Cutting and running is a very real alternative. Have you been listening to Sy Hersh lately? According to people like him, Bush’s “adventure” in Iraq was a diversion from the WOT and it is actually making it worse. Their theory is that we are creating more terrorists in Iraq than we are killing. It is the wrong war in the wrong place at the wrong time. It was worse than WRONG, it was a MISTAKE.
    In they eyes of the Democratic base, the only choice is to cut and run. These people will be essential to Kerry if he wants to get re-elected in 2008. When Kerry is inevitably asked not by me, but by HIS OWN BASE how he OF ALL PEOPLE can ask a man to be the last man to die for the wrong war at the wrong place at the wrong time, what do you think Kerry will do? Will he stay the course in “Bush’s war” or will he cut and run as the base of his support wants?
    So who’s wishes prayers will Kerry answer? Yours and Sulli’s? Or Sy Hersh’s, Michael Moore’s, MoveOn’s and George Soros’? I’ll give you a hint: money talks and bullshit walks. If you want to know what Kerry will do, follow the money. And the money that will have put Kerry in office has a very different alternative in mind than staying the course.
    I doubt anything anybody says here will persuade you to change your vote. But if Kerry wins this election, I expect his administration to be a total disaster. If it turns out this way, I hope you will be open-minded and honest enough to admit that YOUR vote was a tragic mistake made on a wish and a prayer.

  • HA

    Jeff,
    Talk about strange bedfellows. You, Sulli, Michael Moore, George Soros, MoveOn, Jacques Chirac, Kofi Annan and now the “moolah’s” are all in agreement – Kerry for President!
    http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/nm/20041027/pl_nm/campaign_world_iran_dc
    You and Sulli must have imbibed too much Kerry campaign rhetoric to now find yourselves in bed with these creeps. When you wake up, no amount of tylenol will cure your hangover. And there is no morning after pill to abort the spawn conceived in a reckless moment of abandon and sent to the White House.

  • Faramin

    HA,
    You’ve got that wrong. Mullah’s and fundamentalist endorse Bush. After all, nothing could have helped them to recruite more, but George Bush’s policies. Also, he has helped the Tehran regime to furtehr crack down on peoples’ demands, with his stupid “axis of eveil” thing.
    Yes, Iran regime is endorsing Bush. Don’t believe it? Read Bush wins election endorsement

  • Jamie

    If you feel so strongly about the Middle East then why don’t you armchair warriors stop playing Rainbow Six, enlist in the armed forces, and do the real thing. How many times does it have to be said that FIFTEEN of the NINETEEN HIJACKERS WERE SAUDI CITIZENS. THE SAUDI GOVERNMENT WAS PROTECTED BY BUSH BY HAVING 28 PAGES OF INCRIMINATING EVIDENCE REDACTED FROM THE 9/11 PRELIMINARY REPORT. To this day Saudi apologists, like those that support Bush on this page, can’t bear to believe that the “…guy they could have a beer with…” would sell out the US for his Saudi bum-chums.
    However, despite your fabrications on the content of Kerry’s character, it has to be said that Bush’s failure to execute a clinical resolution to the Iraq conflict has seriously weakened the US’s perception of mighty military strength in the Middle East. Afghanistan and the ass kicking of the Taliban, although still a mess, led countries that incubate terrorism to pause and think about retribution from the US military machine. The piss-poor planning of Iraq means that terror groups now operate in Iraq as if it were a terror training camp: they slide over the Iraq border, take out a few of our boys, and back over they go to their grateful Mullahs fully aware of our limited resources to strike back. If you buy into that BS about “…better off fighting them over there than here…” then you are one sick puppy. Americans dying anywhere in the world is unacceptable. If we could negotiate with a scumbag like Ghadaffi, if we can allow the commie Chinese to negotiate OUR SECURITY with an ‘Axis of Evil’ country like N. Korea on our behalf, if we can overlook the slaughter in the Sudan, why couldn’t we have waited to have a solid coalition to go into Iraq?
    No, like Vietnam, we can’t bomb our way into democracy. Bush 41 realized this in Desert Storm (which I served in). He knew that Iraq would have an Islamic revolution in a post-Saddam vacum and become another Iran. I know diplomacy sucks to some of you fake GI Joe’s, but at the end of the day there are 1,110 combat boots that are facing toes-up-to-the-sky because of people that thought bombing Iraq would be a cakewalk. So when the Iraqi’s democratically elect Moqtada al Sadr their Prime Minister, when he turns the country into an Islamic theocracy of anti-Americanism, when Iraq declares it’s intent to start a nuclear program because it didn’t sign an armistice agreement with the US at the end of the ‘Iraqi Freedom’ conflict what then? Bomb ‘em again? Some of you make me puke.

  • Rachel

    I like Kerry, but stop making him a savior. There is no guaranteee that things military wise will get better in Iraq under his command. And all votes, regardless of who, are on a wish and a prayer,
    I know friends who are to this day undecided. I’m voting for Nader (yes, Nader). Neither Kerry nor Bush have my confidence.

  • Jamie

    Yeah, vote for Nader. He should make the Islamic funda”mental”ists see reason. So really you’re a Republican.

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