: You have to give the NY Post points for its sense of humor. Here’s today’s page 1 after yesterday’s page 1 called Gephardt the veep. All corrections should be so obvious, eh?
The NY Times notes how yesterday’s Post story “did not include a byline or even a source for the information”
[putting on conspiracy-theory hat] Was this a dis-information campaign orchestrated by Murdoch & friends??
OK, so this may be a far out theory, but how many Post papers were sold yesterday? If simply screwing up the front page can sell 2 times as many papers because it turns into some sort of collectors item, I’d do it every election.
This is something Jarvis will never put up. They even lied about Saddam’s statue being taken down….come on Jarvis how about a comment on this eh!
When Saddam Fell: How the Press was Misled From Day One
By E&P Staff
Published: July 05, 2004
NEW YORK They were the shots seen ’round the world: newspaper photographs and TV images of jubilant Iraqis toppling a giant statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad on April 9, 2003, shortly after the U.S. military chased him out of town. Now, after months of rumors, the U.S. military has confirmed that the entire stunt was conceived by the U.S. military and enacted with the help of a fast-thinking Army psychological operation (PYSOP).
A U.S. Army internal study of the war reveals, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times, that as the Iraqi regime was collapsing that day, U.S. Marines converged on Firdos Square in central Baghdad. It was a Marine colonel who decided to topple the statue, the Army report said, with the PSYOP team making it appear to be a spontaneous Iraqi action.
First, the colonel, who was not named in the report, selected the statue as a “target of opportunity.” Then the PSYOP team used loudspeakers to encourage Iraqi civilians, many of them young people, to assemble and assist.
But Marines had already draped an American flag over the statue’s face. “God bless them, but we were thinking from PSYOP school that this was just bad news,” the PSYOP member wrote in the report. “We didn’t want to look like an occupation force.” A PSYOP sergeant quickly replaced the American flag with an Iraqi flag.
“Ultimately,” the Los Angeles Times report concluded, “a Marine recovery vehicle toppled the statue with a chain, but the effort appeared to be Iraqi-inspired because the PSYOP team had managed to pack the vehicle with cheering Iraqi children.”
Photos of the toppling appeared on front pages all over the world with captions that attributed the idea to a happy Iraqi mob.
forgot the link:
A sense of humor helps put things in perspective. The Post’s ability to laugh at themselves points out what a small story this is. Being the first to report a choice for a job that consists primarily of waiting at “an undisclosed location” for the Pres to die doesn’t strike anyone as urgent.
There was also an unsubstantiated report on one blog site about the Kerry jet being dispatched to MO. Presumably to pick-up Gebhardt. Guess it was being sent for a name change paint job.
The response of the NYTimes in contrast says more about the NYTimes. Sense of self eprecating humor? Prominent and rapid acknowledgement of errors?
When everything is THAT serious how can we take THEM seriously? A sense of perspective helps in identifying what is really serious with dire consequences from what is merely interesting to know.
There was also an unsubstantiated report on one blog site…
The sad thing is if you polled FOX viewers and NY Post readers a week from now I’d hazard to guess about 69% of these nuckleheads will still think Gephardt is Kerry’s VP pick…similar to these nuckleheads thinking Iraq had anything to do with 9/11.
Why does BuzzMachine get more than it’s fair share of trolls? Is it because Jeff actually is an independent, not just someone who calls himself such, but then continues to parrot talking points from his side of the political spectrum?
Yes, I think that must be it.
Hey David, thanks for the laughs. What pysop posting has to do with the Post’s incorrect headline is beyond me.
And thanks for your very scientific analysis of Fox and Post readers. As one of them, I can only bow to your superior intelligence and insight.
Will Jarvis comment on the following……….SADLY NO.
SUFFER THE LITTLE CHILDREN
Children in Iraqi prisons
Yesterday, we posted the video from a German TV report about alleged abuse and detention of children in Iraqi prisons. While the US media remains silent (as far as we know,) this story is getting some coverage outside of Germany. Pete from The Dark Window sends us this link from Norway:
Norwegian authorities reacted with shock and disgust Tuesday to a documentary on German TV that American soldiers allegedly have been holding children in prisons in Iraq, and abusing them as well. The Norwegians joined the Red Cross and Amnesty International in calling for an immediate end to the abuse, and release of the underage prisoners, some of whom are as young as 12 years.
The (partial) translation of the report is below. It was prepared by our staff and Pete from The Dark Window. Links to the original video and text (in German) are below.
Soldiers looking for terrorists storm an apartment. Children are sometimes arrested during these raids. What the Army does with them, it will not say. We investigate. Meet with sources.
One that knows something about this is Sergeant Samuel Provance, from the US Military. He spent half a year stationed at Abu Ghraib. Today, 5 months later, we meet him in Heidelberg. His superiors have strictly forbidden him to speak to journalists about what he experienced in Abu Ghraib. But Provance wants to talk about it nevertheless. His conscience troubles him. He discusses a 16-year old he handled:
“He was very afraid, very alone. He had the thinnest arms I had ever seen.
His whole body trembled. His wrists were so thin we couldn’t put handcuffs on him. As I saw him for the first time and led him to the interrogation, I felt sorry. The interrogation specialists threw water over him and put him into a car, drove him around through the extremely cold night. Afterwards, they covered him with mud and showed him to his imprisoned father, on whom they’d tried other interrogation methods.
They hadn’t been able to get him to speak, though. The interrogation specialists told me that after the father saw his son in this condition, his heart was broken, he started crying, and he promised to tell them anything they wanted.” –Samuel Provance
After this however the son remained in detention, and the 16-year old was put in with the adults. But Provance discusses a special children’s section at Abu Ghraib — a secret detention facility.
One that has seen the children’s section with his own eyes is the Iraqi journalist Suhaib Badr-Addin Al-Baz. Our correspondent met with him in Baghdad. He explains how he was picked up while reporting and jailed 74 days in Abu Ghraib:
“There I saw a camp for kids, young, certainly not yet of puberty age. There must have been hundreds of kids. Some were released, others are certainly still there.” –Suhaib Badr-Addin Al-Baz
From his cell in the adult’s section he hears a girl of maybe 12 years of age crying. Later he found out that her brother was held in a cell on the second floor of the prison. Once or twice he says, he saw the girl himself. [...] “She called out her brother’s name. She was beaten, she cried out “they took off my clothes, they poured water on me.”” –Suhaib Badr-Addin Al-Baz
He heard her cries every day. [...]
These accounts from witnesses are difficult to corroborate. We look for additional proof of the detention of children. We find it at UNICEF, which has written this explosive report, published a few days ago [June 2004, -S,N!]:
“Children picked up in Basra and Kerbala were routinely transferred to a prison in Um Qasr.” –UNICEF
The prison in Um Qasr. These images were shot in 2003. Today, it is too dangerous for reporters to drive to Um Qasr. This facility, a detention center for terrorists and criminals, would have also held children.
“This classification of children as ‘prisoners’ is alarming given that they are held for an undetermined period of time, without contact with their family or expectation of a trial.” –UNICEF
UNICEF will not make any comments about this yet to be released report. [...] We look for additional information and contact the International Committee of the Red Cross. After several discussions, additional confirmation, including numbers:
“Over the course of 19 visits in 6 different detention facilities from January to May of this year, we counted 107 children. These facilities were under the control of coalition troops.” –Florian Westphal, ICRC.
The ICRC found minors in both Qasr and Abu Ghraib. Two international organizations confirm, independently, that coalition troops have jailed Iraqi children. But information directly from the prisons remains unavailable. UNICEF was not able to visit the children’s prison in Baghdad:
“UNICEF asked to visit this facility in July 2003, but access was denied.” –UNICEF
No independent observers have been in this facility since December, according to UNICEF. [...]
During a visit for the press at Abu Ghraib, no children were seen. We stand by our report: Four sources confirm independently the detention of children in Iraq. Two witnesses allege abuse. [...]
–Report by Thomas Reutter.
Contacted for comments, the British Defense Ministry has said its troops have not detained minors and children. We have yet to receive an answer from the Pentagon. –Fritz Frey, Host.
This is just one in a long line of memorable Post headlines.
Wasn’t the post the paper who gave us “Headless body found in topless bar” after all??? lol!
So we know David’s visited Atrios this morning. Fine with me, I did too.
What that has to do with the Post, however…
The Post makes a joke about its mistake. Story over. Compare this with what happened under Howell Raines at the Times, when the execs took on a bunker mentality about their Jayson Blair problem, until they were outed by the San Antonio Express-News editor.
The people who hate the Post won’t think any better of it because of today’s front page (heck, even if they hadn’t made the mistake in the first place, they wouldn’t think much of it). But better to handle the mistake this way than to try and hide the problem like the folks one avenue to the west did and end up with your executive staff being purged in discrace.
“David” is really Richard Gephardt. Dude, you’ve got to get over your disappointment, and channel your energies into useful and kind channels.
But better to handle the mistake this way than to try and hide the problem like the folks one avenue to the west did and end up with your executive staff being purged in discrace.
Well, I would like to add that I hope the people in charge are going over how they got burned, and will correct the problem for good…
This reminds of a blunder by the Argus Leader, a newspaper in Sioux Falls, S.D., which reported on Tuesday, Jan. 7, 2003 that Daschle was running for president, and that he would make his announcement that weekend in Aberdeen, S.D.
Daschle announced that same morning that he was NOT running for president.
The paper’s explanation? The information was right when we published it.
I am not kidding.
Word is, Dawn Eden knows the real scoop. I suggest we tie her up and tickle her feet ’til she tells us the name of the super secret source.
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