Arafat: King Terrorist

Arafat: King Terrorist

Yasser Arafat called on his followers to “terrorize” their enemies on the occasion of the anniversary of Israel.

Mr. Arafat called on his people to be steadfast in their struggle against Israel.

Quoting from the Muslim holy book, the Koran, he told his supporters to “find what strength you have to terrorize your enemy and the enemy of God.”

Mr. Arafat said that the international community had no right to allow the establishment of a Jewish State in 1948, and the Palestinian people were determined to press on with their claim for an independent country of their own.

And so what separates him from bin Laden? There is no hope of peace with this man.

: He terrorizes even his own people. From the Scotsman:

Arab prisoners beaten and tortured, innocent bystanders killed by gunfire – another damning human rights report.

But the difference this time is that the violence is being perpetrated not by coalition forces in Iraq, but by the Palestinian Authority, and the victims are its own people.

The report, partly funded by the Finnish government, claims Palestinian cities are in a state of near anarchy, with people on the payroll of Yasser Arafat

  • Franky

    Yeah it’s a tragedy that Arafat is still in control of Palestinians. his corruption and terror of his own people, delegitimizes what is a just struggle for independence. His time is long-past. I can’t see peace ever coming to that region while him and Sharon are in power. Neither one wants, or can handle, peace in that region.

  • Kat

    Yes, but Reuters explains it as not really calling for terror–not that I believe a word Reuters says, but they make excuses for the terrorist, Arafat. Reuters can explain away anything. No wonder they keep calling islam a religion of peace.
    Quote:
    Arafat, whom Israel accuses of supporting militant groups, did not appear to be calling for new attacks on Israel. The passage in the Quran refers to the early Muslims

  • hen

    Franky – You are truly an idiot – the “i can’t see peace in that region with Arafat and Sharon” is 1) a case of moral equivalence which is absolutely wrong and idiotic and 2) just an indication of how little you understand the ME.
    IF the “palestinians” ever had a “leader” who cd and wd promote peace, then it wdn’t matter who was the leader of Israel – Israel is a democracy that has been yearning for and offering peace since it’s birth.
    Sharon dismantled the Sinai settlements; Sharon was the first Israeli PM who verbalized the need for a two state solution; Sharon is the first Israeli PM who is going to move in a direction to make Gaza Judenfried.
    Think, then post. You won’t make such an ass of yourself if you do it that way.

  • Jeff B.

    Yeah, Franky. At some point you need to discard the old cliches about Sharon and just, you know, look at his record as PM. Honestly, I used to hold the same opinion as you do, so I’m not as inclined as hen to get angry at you. But at this point there’s something intensely disgusting about comparing Sharon to Arafat, considering both a.) the immense and manifest awfulness of Arafat, as evidenced by this and countless other things (you shall know a man by his deeds…); b.) the real risks Sharon has taken for peace. For one, he’s risking his career in the Gaza pullout, and may lose the gamble with his own party – a gamble he simply did not need to take, politically speaking.
    I’m totally willing to grant it’s unwitting on your part – no accusations of anti-Semitism here – a simple issue of using old data and prejudices to arrive at an aesthetic conclusion that doesn’t track with reality anymore. But I seriously ask you to reconsider casual comparisons of the two leaders, because at this point they’re so outrageous as to be offensive. Would you think it fair to compare George W. Bush (another leader for whom I imagine you conceive a certain distaste) with Osama bin Laden and say that ‘neither wants peace?’
    Just food for thought.

  • Franky

    Hen, grown-ups don’t respond to childish, hysterical rants. Now get ahold of yourself, throw some water on your face, wipe the tears away, and then write me a proper post.
    Jeff B, look at Sharon’s history. His movement and support comes from the settlement movement who are fundamentalists, as distasteful as fundamentalists are in any religion – these are the people who refer to God’s desire they live there and refer to Palestinians as snakes. The settlers and their whole movement, along with Saudi Arabia’s Wahibbis (spelling?), are the most distasteful element in the middle east.
    What has he done in his reign: this is a man who heads a government that sends f-16s to fire missiles in to crowded streets in order to kill those he accuses of being terrorists, killing socres of bystanders – by any definition, such an act is terrorism. He has reinstated the most barbaric concepts such as collective guilt; your neighbor attacks Israel and the Israeli government rips down your entire neighbourhood – without resorting to hyperbole, but for such policies you would have to go back Stalin’s Russia and Hitler’s Germany. The “security wall” is proving to be yet another landgrab in order to cement lines beyond pre-67 borders, and his withdrawl from Gaza is being done with the intention of keeping the west bank. This is a war criminal, who is indirectly responsible for the deaths of thousands of palestinians in the Sabra and Shatila massacres. And let’s remember that this current initfada was caused directly by Sharon’s decision to cause conotrversy before an election: get palestinians angry and then hope that Israelis vote for me. Tragically it worked.
    Now if someone were to defend Arafat then I would list the numerous reasons to dislike him, but I’m not retracting the comparison: neither man can handle nor does either want peace.
    I think the tragedy here is that the Bush administration is not putting any limits on the government of Sharon, something that will ultimately lead to further tragedy for the Israelis. Therew will have to be concessions on both sides before the violence ends, and Bush’s blanket support for all and any action taken by “the man of peace” is not helping.

  • Kat

    Franky, you numbskull–let’s start with cancelling the PLO charter and go from there. You do know what it says, or are you just a natural Nazi? It’s all the Jews fault–boo hoo hoo–they won’t go into the sea like we want, Bwahaha. We got that Pali flag all ready minus Israel and Bush won’t help us kill those Jews off. Sniffle sniffle.

  • Mustapha

    Ummm… here are the verses in question. The next verse after the much-bandied one talks about making peace if the enemy seems so inclined:
    “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power including steeds of war to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies of Allah and your enemies and others besides whom ye may not know but whom Allah doth know. Whatever ye shall spend in the cause of Allah shall be repaid unto you and ye shall not be treated unjustly.
    “But if the enemy incline towards peace do thou (also) incline towards peace and trust in Allah: for He is the one that heareth and knoweth .”
    (Quran; 60-61)

  • Franky

    Hey, the liar is back. Don’t you feel sort of guilty calling people “nazis” for their support of Palestinian independence, when there remain survivors in this world of the concentration camps? Or would that take a level of knowledge that simply isn’t available?
    let’s see what Likud says “there are no palestinians” and “god decreed ALL this land for us (no matter that other people were living here before and continue to live in much of it)” ….yeah that’s a worthy ideology to support.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A31214-2004May16.html
    You be happy with yourself supporting moves like this. You don’t want peace, but the total crushing of another people. So we have nothing to discuss.

  • Kat

    Well, I have a real problem giving terrorists a state and over 80% want Israel wiped off the earth.
    The plan in brief:
    1. Through the “armed struggle” (i.e., terrorism), to establish an “independent combatant national authority” over any territory that is “liberated” from Israeli rule. (Article 2)
    2. To continue the struggle against Israel, using the territory of the national authority as a base of operations. (Article 4)
    3. To provoke an all-out war in which Israel’s Arab neighbors destroy it entirely (“liberate all Palestinian territory”). (Article 8)

  • Kat

    Mustapha—yet but your kind of peace is too costly–no frigging way I’m being a dhimmi to a terrorist. I’d rather have another Crusades. That sharia crap does not impress me much. When you can be tolerant towards infidels in muslim lands, then you can preach that stuff–until that time it is nothing but a lie.

  • Franky

    Well Kat thank God the majority of Israelis think that your opinions are insane, and they do support giving the Palestinians a state, although I’m sure you would be welcomed among those deranged settlers (on a sidenote, I would like to stress that I have some sympathy for some settlers: from what I understand some recent immigrants, especially from the former USSR, have had to become settlers because they were so poor and the government subsidizes them to live in these settlements – the ones who voluntarily go there to carry out their relgiious calling I blame, of course not exclusively, for much of the current violence in the middle east).
    I guess the reason why so many Israelis are much more reasonable on this issue is that they know they have to suffer the consequences of such a vicious policy as spouted by Kat, so are keener to find some such solution. Whereas, as best I can make out, those ultra-rightwingers who advocate this ethnic cleansing simply want to punish muslims.

  • Ptolemy

    Yes Franky, they do support a Palestinian state and yet they willingly elected the “evil” Sharon as their leader. What does that tell you of the desperate situation they are having in dealing with hate-filled dishonest partners across the fence? Sharon would never have been in this position if the Arabs hadn’t pushed the Isrealis into survival-mode. Why will Isreal recieve no credit for the efforts made all these years?

  • hen

    Franky – You are right that grown ups don’t normally respond to child like idiocy; why i have decided to keep on responding to you must mean that i believe you are capable of learning or i am a masochist – either way here goes:
    You are so wrong, so stupid and (i clearly think now) so anti semitic i know i am wasting my time. To compare the Israeli’s with Stalin’s USSR or Hitler’s Germany is beyond foul. You clearly have no understanding at all of the history of the ME and the Israeli/Arab conflict. There is no way anyone with any historical knowledge cd be as ignorant as you, unless he is an anti semite.
    But let me point by point dispute your bullshit:
    1) Israeli settlers are akin to Saudi wahhabists – False. Wahhabiism advocates the killing of others. Wahabiism is the focal point of the madrasses that produce the fundamentalist Islamists who are presently in a world wide war with Western civiliazation – to compare the two is disgusting;
    2) The “palestinians” are responsible for every single civilians who is killed in airstrikes that the IAF unleashes on terrorist leaders. When terrorists live amongst and surround themselves with civilians it is THEY who are responsible for what happens;
    3) Collective punishment? Pls. I have never heard your ilk spew about the “collective punishment” inflicted on Israelis by these murderous Islamists who step into pizza parlors to shred all those around them – when Israel treats any arab city like Syria treated Hamas then i will concede this point, until then Israel has been far to kind to these terrorists and terror supporters;
    4) Land grab. You are a complete idiot – read UNSC res 242 – Israel has a right to take ALL of the land it took in the defensive wars of 67 and 73. The idea that they will give back an inch to these oxygen thieves makes me sick, but i understand the need to cut these people loose regardless of the precarious position is leaves Israel in viz the possibility of being split down the center;
    5) “thousands of palestininans killed in S&S”; why not just say millions? or make it billions? Christians kill Muslims, Jews get blamed. Oh and the figure of palestinians, most of whom were armed, that died in the fighting was more in the range of a couple of hundred, but don’t let the facts get in your way of blaming the jews.
    Amazed you didn’t end with a “USS Liberty Jon Pollard” screed. You are an idiot.
    Hey Mustapha – you keep on dodging my question: Do you use your Koran to beat your wife?