The mullah or Rome

The mullah or Rome
: Says blogger Amr Malik:

The pope came out (here is wordplay for ya) against homo-sexual marriages. I don’t really think much of the institution of “marriage” to begin with, but the latest announcement by the Pope seems to me the throwing down of the gauntlet….

How is this different from the Taliban? The difference is that of degrees, not of philosophical background….

Why is everyone so calm when its Cathalocism and not Islam?

Damned good question.

  • radices

    I’m sorry, but it’s not a good question,
    it’s a repulsively stupid one
    (I’m not Catholic, or even religious, BTW). The The Taliban (and Islamofascists in general)
    do not recognize the distinction
    between religious and civil authority.
    Christianity does. Sure, at one time the
    Pope exercised civil authority over some
    Papal States, but that’s long over. Most
    Catholics these days may listen to the Pope,
    but then they do whatever they care to
    otherwise without much pain. The Taliban
    killed people who didn’t follow their orders.
    This is not a mere difference in degree.

  • http://www.buzzmachine.com Jeff Jarvis

    The Pope is trying hard to exercise civil control, telling Catholic politicians what to do.

  • Lee

    The Pope isn’t the government.

  • Mike G

    This is when I wish I was the editor of the NY Times, so I could run the headline “Head of World’s Largest Employer of Homosexuals Attacks Gay Marriage.”
    “Sure, at one time the Pope exercised civil authority over some Papal States”
    And if you think that’s it for the long, long, long history of the attempts of popes to be secular as well as religious authorities, you got some European history, 400 A.D. to the present, to be readin’.
    Let’s just put it this way: anything the Taliban can do, Philip of Spain can do better.

  • Mara

    Because as a Catholic woman, when the church comes out with something like this, I read it in the paper, wonder why they aren’t cleaning up their own messes first and see how the Yankees did last night.
    If I lived somewhere else, I wouldn’t be reading the paper, wouldn’t be allowed to have an opinion on the people making the statement and put on my burka and wait for a male family member to take me to the store.

  • http://spleenville.com/ Andrea Harris

    Er, Mike G., I don’t think that Philip of Spain can do much of anything these days, since he has been dead for some time now.

  • Lee

    “The Pope is trying hard to exercise civil control, telling Catholic politicians what to do.”
    I remember that being an argument for not voting for JFK.
    The Pope can make religious pronouncements all he wants. It’s his job.

  • R C Dean

    The difference between the Pope and Mullah Omar is that the Pope isn’t moderating a deabate over whether homosexuals should be stoned to death, or should be crushed under falling walls. That, if you recall, was the pressing issue of gay rights under the Taliban.

  • Mike G

    Actually, Andrea, the Taliban are also out of power. That’s what I get for making a very mildly witty allusion to a musical comedy as opposed to saying “In point of fact, there are striking similarities between the theocracy established by the Taliban and that which ruled Spain under Philip II (1527-1598).”
    I’ll try to remember that this is the Internet and just be butt obvious from now on…

  • Rex-Pat

    Because the Pope doesn’t advocate killing infidels and destroying the cultural heritage of other faiths.
    Next stupid question….

  • Steve

    First time I can remember ever having respect for the pope. One of the basic principles of Christanity is that sex is only permitted between a married man and woman. To endorse anything else would be to deny God’s word. Something he cannot do.

  • Danjo

    So, is the Pope turning me down? Why must he tease me so???????
    I was raised Catholic, my Mother is still a strict Catholic. When Da Pope makes pronouncements like that, we shrug, ignore it and live our lives. The Pope is about as relevant to my mother as Elvis Presley, and yes Diane, I know he is dead.
    Danjo
    Working on my Rem sleep

  • Paul

    Not a good question, IMO, because the premise is wrong. “Everyone” is not “so calm” about the pope’s pronouncement. Just read a few newspapers and blogs to see many people not so calm about it. Nor was everyone much upset about how the Taliban treated gays or anyone else until 9/11. One rule of American politics: we don’t care what tyrants do to their own people unless they threaten us. Another rule: the left will criticize any action or belief of Western religions, especially Catholicism and fundamentalist Protestantism, and accept anything Muslims do as “cultural differences”. The right will criticize Islam but will defend Christianity against all charges(well, at least Protestantism, not Catholicism).

  • Mike G

    “Because the Pope doesn’t advocate killing infidels and destroying the cultural heritage of other faiths.”
    So what are these Crusades that Osama keeps going on about?
    And read any Aztec literature lately?
    The only reason Popes don’t do things like that any more is ’cause we beat it out of ‘em.

  • http://www.deadpan.net/pie Chuck

    Perhaps because the Catholic church doesn’t (at least nowadays) torture and kill those it doesn’t agree with.

  • ESP

    “Another rule: the left will criticize any action or belief of Western religions, especially Catholicism and fundamentalist Protestantism, and accept anything Muslims do as “cultural differences”.
    I really should not say this but. . .
    in the same vein
    Another rule: the left will criticize any action or belief of Western religions, especially Catholicism and fundamentalist Protestantism because they are rife with the Right. As political opponents that is what you do to keep them honest.